^^^Saw the woven flames this weekend and they are TDF in person!! My husband was with me and he indulges me by at least pretending that he cares when i get to see RMs in person (I try to do the same for him in guitar shops ). I showed him the "Whitney Port" flame (can't remember the name but the stone one with the GM studs lined on the front) and he looked at the quilted flames and said, "this is the same style right?" When I said yes, he said, "Well, I think it looks really cool with the stitching and the screws on the front!" He, of course, was referring to the quilted one which I thought was funny.