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peace43 · Jun 14th, 2009, 08:50 AM

I see a lot of people bringing their dogs to shopping malls in the LA and OC area but I think it's better to just leave the pets at home. Most stores do not allow dogs inside unless they're seeing-eye dogs but I still see people taking their dogs inside the stores even when their are signs posted. I think the animals would be better off and more comfortable at home than being taken to the malls in either a pet carrier or stroller.

I think most pet owners would clean up after their dogs if the dog had an accident. However, I was at Nordstroms at The Grove once where a large dog had an accident and the owners just walked away! The SAs had called the janitor to come and clean up the mess and were warning customers to walk around the messy area on the 2nd floor. I thought that was very rude of the customer to just leave the area without cleaning up after their dog.

I also dislike seeing dogs left inside cars while their owners run errands. Again, why not just leave the dog at home in their comfort of their own home instead of inside a hot car? Most of the time, the car windows are rolled down slightly for air but I have seen dogs inside cars with the windows completely rolled up!!! Why would someone do that to their dog?

cakegirl · Jun 14th, 2009, 09:37 AM

When I was in NYC I took my dog out with me all the time. I never had a problem with her anywhere and never heard anyone complain. Bergdorf's even had a Santa photo day for pets! Since I've left there and she's gotten older I take her with me only to stores in my immediate neighborhood-many stores in my area have "shop dogs"-the owner's dog who spends the day at the shop.

I think the fact is we can't regulate away everything unpleasant in life. One person may not like dogs. I am not thrilled with screaming kids on an airplane and your heavy perfume will probably give me an asthma attack. So I travel with headphones and always carry my inhaler. I do not expect perfume to be made illegal.
Personal responsibility is key. If you want to take your dog out in public, make sure they are clean and well behaved. If you are worried about your child being bitten, teach your children not to approach a strange dog. There will always be some rude people who have no consideration for others- but there are no rules that can be made to protect us from them!

Vegas Long Legs · Jun 14th, 2009, 11:37 AM

[QUOTE=Green Zebra;11330806]The dogs jump on the cushioned benches meant for seating the customers. Heck, I own a dog, but this disturbs me that dog's paws/mouth are making contact with a seat that I (or someone else...or a child) will sit on and touch with my hands. Sorry, but I think dogs should not be allowed anywhere unless they are a service dog.
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Here's something that is scary! A friends daughter got a staph infection from the seats in a plane! She shaved her legs before the flight, was wearing shorts & had a small cut on the back of her leg!

Jesskaz · Jun 14th, 2009, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by cakegirl

When I was in NYC I took my dog out with me all the time. I never had a problem with her anywhere and never heard anyone complain. Bergdorf's even had a Santa photo day for pets! Since I've left there and she's gotten older I take her with me only to stores in my immediate neighborhood-many stores in my area have "shop dogs"-the owner's dog who spends the day at the shop.

I think the fact is we can't regulate away everything unpleasant in life. One person may not like dogs. I am not thrilled with screaming kids on an airplane and your heavy perfume will probably give me an asthma attack. So I travel with headphones and always carry my inhaler. I do not expect perfume to be made illegal.
Personal responsibility is key. If you want to take your dog out in public, make sure they are clean and well behaved. If you are worried about your child being bitten, teach your children not to approach a strange dog. There will always be some rude people who have no consideration for others- but there are no rules that can be made to protect us from them!

Deelove82 · Jun 14th, 2009, 01:39 PM

In Germany dogs are allowed in almost every store (except stores that sell food) and I don't see why they shouldn't be as long as they don't come in direct contact with the merchandise. My dog is clean, doesn't smell and is pretty well behaved. He just lies on the floor until I'm finished looking at/ buying stuff. Almost all designer stores keep a box of dog biscuits behind the register. My dog got offered treats at Tiffany, Chanel, Hermès and LV so far.
BTW: Dogs are allowed in most restaurants, too.

Roo · Jun 14th, 2009, 02:34 PM

Dog strollers are actually very practical. There are many dogs that due to age, cannot walk very far due to arthritis or other physical problems. The stroller is great because the dog can still get out and enjoy being outside on walks. The stroller is also very useful because it protects the dog from harm. I have one that I have taken on vacations to national parks and the like. The stroller I have I can take hiking and on trails. My dog is very small and I don't want her to be prey for larger animals. I also find the stroller useful in that it prevents people from trying to grab my dog in public places we are unaccustomed to when we are traveling. Some people seem to have a compulsion to want to grab and pet smaller dogs when they see them and it can freak the dog out.

I realize a lot of people use dog strollers for the image thing, and I used to think that too until I got one and realized how practical they are.

.:Sprigged:. · Jun 14th, 2009, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by dallas

Yeah, my friend has an Ass ... a huge one. I tell ya', we'd all be in trouble.

"Get that thing out of the store!!"

That's a whole other thread...

beljwl · Jun 14th, 2009, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Roo

Dog strollers are actually very practical. There are many dogs that due to age, cannot walk very far due to arthritis or other physical problems. The stroller is great because the dog can still get out and enjoy being outside on walks. The stroller is also very useful because it protects the dog from harm. I have one that I have taken on vacations to national parks and the like. The stroller I have I can take hiking and on trails. My dog is very small and I don't want her to be prey for larger animals. I also find the stroller useful in that it prevents people from trying to grab my dog in public places we are unaccustomed to when we are traveling. Some people seem to have a compulsion to want to grab and pet smaller dogs when they see them and it can freak the dog out.

I realize a lot of people use dog strollers for the image thing, and I used to think that too until I got one and realized how practical they are.

I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!

It was funny when I first bought mine my DH and I had a big fight. He thought I was crazy, until he saw how much our dog loved it and how much easier it was.

sweetneet · Jun 14th, 2009, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Roo

Dog strollers are actually very practical. There are many dogs that due to age, cannot walk very far due to arthritis or other physical problems. The stroller is great because the dog can still get out and enjoy being outside on walks. The stroller is also very useful because it protects the dog from harm. I have one that I have taken on vacations to national parks and the like. The stroller I have I can take hiking and on trails. My dog is very small and I don't want her to be prey for larger animals. I also find the stroller useful in that it prevents people from trying to grab my dog in public places we are unaccustomed to when we are traveling. Some people seem to have a compulsion to want to grab and pet smaller dogs when they see them and it can freak the dog out.

I realize a lot of people use dog strollers for the image thing, and I used to think that too until I got one and realized how practical they are.

i agree. i remember being in a Louis Vuitton boutique once and there was a man in his fifties or so pushing his dog in a stroller. The guy was carrying a large camera and had the whole tourist uniform (shorts, high socks, etc) so it didn't look like he was trying to make a fashion statement. Someone asked him about it (why carry a dog around in a stroller) and he mentioned the dog was disabled and had trouble walking.

i think that people tend to dislike the ideas of dogs in strollers or in carriers because they think the owners do it purely for vanity or to make a fashion statement. i find that funny because 1) this is a designer purse forum - aren't we all to a certain degree obsessed with fashion/vanity?

and 2) that may not necessarily be the case at all (dog could be old, disabled or what not) so why assume.

queenvictoria2 · Jun 15th, 2009, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by cakegirl

When I was in NYC I took my dog out with me all the time. I never had a problem with her anywhere and never heard anyone complain. Bergdorf's even had a Santa photo day for pets! Since I've left there and she's gotten older I take her with me only to stores in my immediate neighborhood-many stores in my area have "shop dogs"-the owner's dog who spends the day at the shop.

I think the fact is we can't regulate away everything unpleasant in life. One person may not like dogs. I am not thrilled with screaming kids on an airplane and your heavy perfume will probably give me an asthma attack. So I travel with headphones and always carry my inhaler. I do not expect perfume to be made illegal.
Personal responsibility is key. If you want to take your dog out in public, make sure they are clean and well behaved. If you are worried about your child being bitten, teach your children not to approach a strange dog. There will always be some rude people who have no consideration for others- but there are no rules that can be made to protect us from them!

Love your post! Thank you.

Bitten · Jun 15th, 2009, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Pursegrrl

Thank you, claire!! ITA. Gosh this thread totally makes my blood boil.

Really? You know it is just a thread in a forum, right? Get some perspective girl!

Don't be a person who thinks that if they don't understand why someone does something in a particular way, then it's wrong and should be illegal and that person should be taken out and whipped. Not understanding someone's choices (be it in marriage, sexual partner, career, or taking a dog to the store) is not of itself a reason to declare that person's choices unreasonable or invalid.

Now personally, I have a dog. And I luuurve him. Take him for walks, have cuddles, ask him what he wants for dinner, the whole sick, into-my-dog thing. I might worry about it if he starts answering me, but for the moment, I think I'm going ok...

I do NOT take my dog out shopping with me. When I first got the little cherub took him for walks in the mornings, would tie his little leash to a bench outside the bakery and buy my bread. The second (yes, SECOND) I disappeared from his vision, he started to howl. Long, high-pitched, 'I'm so saaaaad, my owner has leeefffftttt meeeeeee, waaaaahhhhhh!!!' howling. Noises I have honestly never heard a dog make. More like a howler monkey.

Initially I though the little dude just needs to get used to the idea that though I disappear from his vision MOMENTARILY, I will always reappear. So we kept up the routine for a couple of weeks. It never changed. So I stopped buying bread after our walks - the howling was traumatic and really quite embarrassing.

I mentioned this to my vet once (yeah, Freudian slip - the DOG'S vet). He said something along the lines of "That sounds like separation anxiety. Maybe try..." I just held my hand up and said "Doc, I think the little dude just has limited neurons and really can't grasp the concept that I have left his vision but I WILL be back. Let's leave it at that."

So that's my little dude. He's not the brightest stick in the bush but he sure is loved. I choose not to take him with me EVERYWHERE, but that's just my choice. Other people choose to take their dogs about with them and as I have said before, within limits, that is ok. Don't be petty about the 'within limits' qualification - I assume we are adults here and the silly responses like "Well, dogs aren't allowed in operating theaters for a reason" are just pathetic in all honesty. You're absolutely right whoever said that, dogs AREN'T allowed in operating theaters. Neither are children or members of the general public (except as the patient and only then under sedation

). An operating theater and a store are different (well, last time I was in one...)

Live and let live is a much ignored cliche but it works. It correlates directly with less blood-boiling, and that can only be a good thing, right?

vhdos · Jun 15th, 2009, 12:41 PM

I absolutely adore dogs - I have one! However, I can't stand it when people feel the need to carry them all over the place. Dog's don't belong in stores, restaurants, etc. Our dog is very loved, extremely spoiled, and a wonderful part of our family, but he is not a person, and that's where we draw the line.

Milton · Jun 15th, 2009, 01:50 PM

personally, dogs in stores don't bother me... but, i have worked in retail, and one girl i used to work with was extremely afraid of dogs. a customer would come in with, for example, a tea cup maltese, maybe 3lbs... she would run to the other side of the store screaming. so, while you may love your "most well behaved, cleanest" animal, you have to allow for the fact that not everone does, and you have to be respectful of that.

Lady V · Jun 15th, 2009, 02:38 PM

I personally loooove dogs, as I have 2 of my own! However spoiled they may be, I dont necessarily take them with me everywhere as I understand that not everyone is into dogs/animals! You have to respect those around you as well!
Although I do admit that I have taken my dogs into a mall/boutique as well - but this is when they were puppies! It was too dangerous to leave them home alone as we had a few instances in which they actually would jump up/climb on top of furniture and proceed to jump/attempt to fly like they were Superman!
They were kept safe and sound in their little LV dog carrier, away from prying eyes!

Styleforever · Jun 15th, 2009, 08:44 PM

Hmmm...never thought about putting them in a stroller. I doubt there are any big enough for mines and doubt they would stay in it, and I doubt I could push them. LOL!!

So I opt to leaving them home in the cool comfort of their home, they keep each other company when I am away. Some years ago I took mines with me to do some buying in NYC for my boutique and the store did not allow them inside (probably because of their size) so I had to take them all the way back to the hotel room and leave them. I had to fight all the way through that traffic back to the hotel because it was just too hot to leave them in the car. And anyone who have ever driven in NYC know you move about an inch a minute. It was an annual fashion warehouse sale, all the major name brands were there and some of the items were things had been worn on the fashion runway that spring and by the time I got back all the best of the goodies was gone. My husband told me to leave them there with him he wasn't going to eat them!!
I learned the hard way, leave them at home unless I am going someplace like an open park they can roam or to someone's house who don't mind them coming along.

I try to be considered of others even when we are in the public park because I can see some people are afraid of them because of their sizes and don't know they are nothing but big lovable pooh bears.

As for this being a fashion forum, they both have designer collars which I had to order for none in the local stores were large enough for them. The Doberman has a Diesel Spike and the Sheepdog has a pink Chanel. They have other collars beside these, these are their dress-up collars. I still have their Coach puppy collars.

Jun 14th, 2009, 08:50 AM	#136
peace43 Member Joined: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 5,210	I see a lot of people bringing their dogs to shopping malls in the LA and OC area but I think it's better to just leave the pets at home. Most stores do not allow dogs inside unless they're seeing-eye dogs but I still see people taking their dogs inside the stores even when their are signs posted. I think the animals would be better off and more comfortable at home than being taken to the malls in either a pet carrier or stroller. I think most pet owners would clean up after their dogs if the dog had an accident. However, I was at Nordstroms at The Grove once where a large dog had an accident and the owners just walked away! The SAs had called the janitor to come and clean up the mess and were warning customers to walk around the messy area on the 2nd floor. I thought that was very rude of the customer to just leave the area without cleaning up after their dog. I also dislike seeing dogs left inside cars while their owners run errands. Again, why not just leave the dog at home in their comfort of their own home instead of inside a hot car? Most of the time, the car windows are rolled down slightly for air but I have seen dogs inside cars with the windows completely rolled up!!! Why would someone do that to their dog?
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Jun 14th, 2009, 09:37 AM	#137
cakegirl Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 965	When I was in NYC I took my dog out with me all the time. I never had a problem with her anywhere and never heard anyone complain. Bergdorf's even had a Santa photo day for pets! Since I've left there and she's gotten older I take her with me only to stores in my immediate neighborhood-many stores in my area have "shop dogs"-the owner's dog who spends the day at the shop. I think the fact is we can't regulate away everything unpleasant in life. One person may not like dogs. I am not thrilled with screaming kids on an airplane and your heavy perfume will probably give me an asthma attack. So I travel with headphones and always carry my inhaler. I do not expect perfume to be made illegal. Personal responsibility is key. If you want to take your dog out in public, make sure they are clean and well behaved. If you are worried about your child being bitten, teach your children not to approach a strange dog. There will always be some rude people who have no consideration for others- but there are no rules that can be made to protect us from them!
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Jun 14th, 2009, 11:37 AM	#138
Vegas Long Legs In an Italian Villa Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,099	[QUOTE=Green Zebra;11330806]The dogs jump on the cushioned benches meant for seating the customers. Heck, I own a dog, but this disturbs me that dog's paws/mouth are making contact with a seat that I (or someone else...or a child) will sit on and touch with my hands. Sorry, but I think dogs should not be allowed anywhere unless they are a service dog. QUOTE] Here's something that is scary! A friends daughter got a staph infection from the seats in a plane! She shaved her legs before the flight, was wearing shorts & had a small cut on the back of her leg!
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Jun 14th, 2009, 01:39 PM	#140
Deelove82 Member Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 846	In Germany dogs are allowed in almost every store (except stores that sell food) and I don't see why they shouldn't be as long as they don't come in direct contact with the merchandise. My dog is clean, doesn't smell and is pretty well behaved. He just lies on the floor until I'm finished looking at/ buying stuff. Almost all designer stores keep a box of dog biscuits behind the register. My dog got offered treats at Tiffany, Chanel, Hermès and LV so far. BTW: Dogs are allowed in most restaurants, too.
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Jun 14th, 2009, 02:34 PM	#141
Roo au courant Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Rue Roo Posts: 12,716	Dog strollers are actually very practical. There are many dogs that due to age, cannot walk very far due to arthritis or other physical problems. The stroller is great because the dog can still get out and enjoy being outside on walks. The stroller is also very useful because it protects the dog from harm. I have one that I have taken on vacations to national parks and the like. The stroller I have I can take hiking and on trails. My dog is very small and I don't want her to be prey for larger animals. I also find the stroller useful in that it prevents people from trying to grab my dog in public places we are unaccustomed to when we are traveling. Some people seem to have a compulsion to want to grab and pet smaller dogs when they see them and it can freak the dog out. I realize a lot of people use dog strollers for the image thing, and I used to think that too until I got one and realized how practical they are.
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Jun 15th, 2009, 12:41 PM	#147
vhdos Member Joined: May 2007 Location: NC Posts: 3,144	I absolutely adore dogs - I have one! However, I can't stand it when people feel the need to carry them all over the place. Dog's don't belong in stores, restaurants, etc. Our dog is very loved, extremely spoiled, and a wonderful part of our family, but he is not a person, and that's where we draw the line.
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Jun 15th, 2009, 01:50 PM	#148
Milton Member Joined: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 925	personally, dogs in stores don't bother me... but, i have worked in retail, and one girl i used to work with was extremely afraid of dogs. a customer would come in with, for example, a tea cup maltese, maybe 3lbs... she would run to the other side of the store screaming. so, while you may love your "most well behaved, cleanest" animal, you have to allow for the fact that not everone does, and you have to be respectful of that.

Jun 15th, 2009, 02:38 PM	#149
Lady V Member Joined: May 2009 Location: CA/CO~ Posts: 179	I personally loooove dogs, as I have 2 of my own! However spoiled they may be, I dont necessarily take them with me everywhere as I understand that not everyone is into dogs/animals! You have to respect those around you as well! Although I do admit that I have taken my dogs into a mall/boutique as well - but this is when they were puppies! It was too dangerous to leave them home alone as we had a few instances in which they actually would jump up/climb on top of furniture and proceed to jump/attempt to fly like they were Superman! They were kept safe and sound in their little LV dog carrier, away from prying eyes!

Jun 15th, 2009, 08:44 PM	#150
Styleforever OP Member Joined: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 286	Hmmm...never thought about putting them in a stroller. I doubt there are any big enough for mines and doubt they would stay in it, and I doubt I could push them. LOL!! So I opt to leaving them home in the cool comfort of their home, they keep each other company when I am away. Some years ago I took mines with me to do some buying in NYC for my boutique and the store did not allow them inside (probably because of their size) so I had to take them all the way back to the hotel room and leave them. I had to fight all the way through that traffic back to the hotel because it was just too hot to leave them in the car. And anyone who have ever driven in NYC know you move about an inch a minute. It was an annual fashion warehouse sale, all the major name brands were there and some of the items were things had been worn on the fashion runway that spring and by the time I got back all the best of the goodies was gone. My husband told me to leave them there with him he wasn't going to eat them!! I learned the hard way, leave them at home unless I am going someplace like an open park they can roam or to someone's house who don't mind them coming along. I try to be considered of others even when we are in the public park because I can see some people are afraid of them because of their sizes and don't know they are nothing but big lovable pooh bears. As for this being a fashion forum, they both have designer collars which I had to order for none in the local stores were large enough for them. The Doberman has a Diesel Spike and the Sheepdog has a pink Chanel. They have other collars beside these, these are their dress-up collars. I still have their Coach puppy collars.

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