Ways in which a buyer can screw a seller:

lovekoobabags · Aug 4th, 2008, 12:42 PM

As I continue to sell on eBay (and my friends) I'm seeing so many different scenarios where the buyer has WAY too much room for screwing the seller. Buyer who like to abuse the system must be grinning from ear to ear. Here is a list of scenarios that show how bad the seller can get burned. Please feel free to add:

-Buyer buys a used handbag and the auction goes into detail about the areas of use and shows a lot of pictures of these areas. Buyer wants more money back and magnifies these areas of wear as "worse than she thought" and gets more money back even if the bag is described well. She offers to take pictures and amplies the defects by damaging it further. You offer a full refund and get a bag back that is now damaged and not just used.

-Buyer uses a bag for 30-6o days, gets tired of it, wants another bag, files a claim, gets her money back after wearing the bag for a small amount of time.

-Buyer decides she really doesn't like the bag as much as she thought and now has her eyes set on another bag and needs the money. Buyer threatens seller with negative feedback and gets her money back.

-Buyer states there is damage on the bag that was not mentioned in the auction. Buyer doesn't like the bag and has caused this damage herself. She damages the bag and takes a picture of it. Threatens to leave a negative.

lilbou64 · Aug 4th, 2008, 01:05 PM

buyers just simply don't pay!!! they bid, they win the auction, they don't respond to the invoice or emails.....

Ever since the 'buyers no longer can leave negative feedbacks for the sellers' rule began, I had at least 5 non-paying buyers. I just don't get it, if you are not going to pay, why bid?!!!!!

shoulderache · Aug 4th, 2008, 01:11 PM

And, unfortunately, that is NOT nearly a complete list of everything that bidders do.

*knock on wood* I haven't had any of them happen to me, probably because I sell more specialty stuff where they either want it or they don't. But, other sellers have gotten seriously screwed! Some of the crime rings that have targeted sellers are sophisticated and good at what they do--parting sellers from both their money and their goods.

freckled · Aug 4th, 2008, 10:45 PM

-they say they never got the item, file a claim, and get their money back.

lovely64 · Aug 5th, 2008, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by freckled

-they say they never got the item, file a claim, and get their money back.

Exactly why I would never ship without sendign it registered with signature on delivery

bags4us · Aug 5th, 2008, 03:58 PM

So called buyers never pay and ignore all emails. I happend to me twice with same bag and in the end I am keeping the bag for good! Bored and tired of re-listing it!!!
Hate eBay feedback system at the moment and don't see myself selling anything again ever!!!(unless they change feedback rules)
It sure is buyer's market at the moment!

rainyjewels · Aug 5th, 2008, 10:16 PM

JHMO but this thread would definitely give any potentially shady buyers, people w/buyer's remorse, or people considering buying ideas on what kind of scams they can get away with on eBay. Tons of people - not just honest tpfers - read and lurk on this forum...so i'd be really reluctant to list all the scenarios in which a buyer can scam an honest seller...

karmenzsofia · Aug 5th, 2008, 11:26 PM

/\ that's a very good point!

lovingmybags · Aug 6th, 2008, 12:08 AM

^^Exactly what I was thinking too...just like how some producers of fake goods might be lurking around here to see how they can improve their products so that fewer people will be able to tell that they're counterfeits! Such a wealth of information that may be abused here...

bellamoda · Aug 6th, 2008, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovekoobabags

As I continue to sell on eBay (and my friends) I'm seeing so many different scenarios where the buyer has WAY too much room for screwing the seller. Buyer who like to abuse the system must be grinning from ear to ear. Here is a list of scenarios that show how bad the seller can get burned. Please feel free to add:

-Buyer buys a used handbag and the auction goes into detail about the areas of use and shows a lot of pictures of these areas. Buyer wants more money back and magnifies these areas of wear as "worse than she thought" and gets more money back even if the bag is described well. She offers to take pictures and amplies the defects by damaging it further. You offer a full refund and get a bag back that is now damaged and not just used.

-Buyer uses a bag for 30-6o days, gets tired of it, wants another bag, files a claim, gets her money back after wearing the bag for a small amount of time.

-Buyer decides she really doesn't like the bag as much as she thought and now has her eyes set on another bag and needs the money. Buyer threatens seller with negative feedback and gets her money back.

-Buyer states there is damage on the bag that was not mentioned in the auction. Buyer doesn't like the bag and has caused this damage herself. She damages the bag and takes a picture of it. Threatens to leave a negative.

LOL! OH MY GOD!!! DONT GIVE THE BUYERS ANYMORE IDEAS!!!! Trust me, there's a lot of "those" types that are members of this very blog/forum.... :( it's so horrible and scary as a LV seller.... I haven't yet had an experience like this and I pray that i dont ever but everytime I ship out an expensive bag I worry for the 40 or so days (until the paypal dispute gap is over) that I'm going to get screwed in some way....

lovely64 · Aug 6th, 2008, 10:30 AM

My thoughts exactly, I don´t think this is such a good idea JMHO,

Kat

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Originally Posted by rainyjewels

JHMO but this thread would definitely give any potentially shady buyers, people w/buyer's remorse, or people considering buying ideas on what kind of scams they can get away with on eBay. Tons of people - not just honest tpfers - read and lurk on this forum...so i'd be really reluctant to list all the scenarios in which a buyer can scam an honest seller...

karmenzsofia · Aug 6th, 2008, 01:02 PM

If you (anyone) agree that posting this info is a bad idea, then please don't post any more messages so that the thread will get buried....

Aug 4th, 2008, 12:42 PM	#1
lovekoobabags Sale Goggles are ON Location: Northeast USA	Ways in which a buyer can screw a seller: As I continue to sell on eBay (and my friends) I'm seeing so many different scenarios where the buyer has WAY too much room for screwing the seller. Buyer who like to abuse the system must be grinning from ear to ear. Here is a list of scenarios that show how bad the seller can get burned. Please feel free to add: -Buyer buys a used handbag and the auction goes into detail about the areas of use and shows a lot of pictures of these areas. Buyer wants more money back and magnifies these areas of wear as "worse than she thought" and gets more money back even if the bag is described well. She offers to take pictures and amplies the defects by damaging it further. You offer a full refund and get a bag back that is now damaged and not just used. -Buyer uses a bag for 30-6o days, gets tired of it, wants another bag, files a claim, gets her money back after wearing the bag for a small amount of time. -Buyer decides she really doesn't like the bag as much as she thought and now has her eyes set on another bag and needs the money. Buyer threatens seller with negative feedback and gets her money back. -Buyer states there is damage on the bag that was not mentioned in the auction. Buyer doesn't like the bag and has caused this damage herself. She damages the bag and takes a picture of it. Threatens to leave a negative. __________________ I should have been saving for the 2008 recession!

Aug 4th, 2008, 01:05 PM	#2
lilbou64 Member Location: LAlaland	buyers just simply don't pay!!! they bid, they win the auction, they don't respond to the invoice or emails..... Ever since the 'buyers no longer can leave negative feedbacks for the sellers' rule began, I had at least 5 non-paying buyers. I just don't get it, if you are not going to pay, why bid?!!!!! __________________ vivivivivi i have - 05 RH black city 06 RH Ink city 07 RH anthracite work 07 SGH Pine Part time 08 RH sapphire city

Aug 4th, 2008, 01:11 PM	#3
shoulderache Member Location: Arizona	And, unfortunately, that is NOT nearly a complete list of everything that bidders do. knock on wood I haven't had any of them happen to me, probably because I sell more specialty stuff where they either want it or they don't. But, other sellers have gotten seriously screwed! Some of the crime rings that have targeted sellers are sophisticated and good at what they do--parting sellers from both their money and their goods. __________________ http://shoulderacheandthecloset.blogspot.com/ Come visit me!

Aug 4th, 2008, 10:45 PM	#4
freckled Member Location: nj	-they say they never got the item, file a claim, and get their money back. __________________

Aug 5th, 2008, 10:16 PM	#7
rainyjewels eat me Location: NYC	JHMO but this thread would definitely give any potentially shady buyers, people w/buyer's remorse, or people considering buying ideas on what kind of scams they can get away with on eBay. Tons of people - not just honest tpfers - read and lurk on this forum...so i'd be really reluctant to list all the scenarios in which a buyer can scam an honest seller... __________________ Wishlist - YSL Navy/Purple Croc Muse II - LV Miroir Alma

Aug 5th, 2008, 03:58 PM	#6
bags4us Member	So called buyers never pay and ignore all emails. I happend to me twice with same bag and in the end I am keeping the bag for good! Bored and tired of re-listing it!!! Hate eBay feedback system at the moment and don't see myself selling anything again ever!!!(unless they change feedback rules) It sure is buyer's market at the moment!

Aug 5th, 2008, 11:26 PM	#8
karmenzsofia Incurable Gypsy Location: alwayZ on the moVe kuZ I'm sUpa kOoL	/\ that's a very good point! __________________ ~ KZ's ~ Wishful Thinking List: Miu Miu Coffer in Anthracite Marc Jacobs Sofia in Maroon Hayden-Harnett Lorca in Violet Tod's New D-Bag Media Tote in Clay Belen Echandia Hug Me in Glossy Black

Aug 6th, 2008, 12:08 AM	#9
lovingmybags Member	^^Exactly what I was thinking too...just like how some producers of fake goods might be lurking around here to see how they can improve their products so that fewer people will be able to tell that they're counterfeits! Such a wealth of information that may be abused here... Last edited by lovingmybags; Aug 6th, 2008 at 12:16 AM.

Aug 6th, 2008, 01:02 PM	#12
karmenzsofia Incurable Gypsy Location: alwayZ on the moVe kuZ I'm sUpa kOoL	If you (anyone) agree that posting this info is a bad idea, then please don't post any more messages so that the thread will get buried.... __________________ ~ KZ's ~ Wishful Thinking List: Miu Miu Coffer in Anthracite Marc Jacobs Sofia in Maroon Hayden-Harnett Lorca in Violet Tod's New D-Bag Media Tote in Clay Belen Echandia Hug Me in Glossy Black