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BagAngel · Jun 24th, 2009, 07:36 PM

She really has to damage it doesn't she, she cannot send it back in good condition. SIGH!

RACHEY07 · Jun 24th, 2009, 08:16 PM

Bagangel, I am so sorry! This is so awful. I have been following this thread from the start and was so shocked to see the latest update. I really hope that you will not be discouraged from being a wonderful ebay seller. it sounds like you have been doing this for a long time and this is your first awful experience.

I am a firm believer in karma and I think this "unbelievably nasty buyer" will get what's coming to her. Maybe paypal will let her get away with it, but in the end, it will come back and bite her in the you know what. She sounds like an awful person and it sucks that a good person like you has to come across her.

but anyways, i'm very anxious to see what this psychopath sends back your way. Please post pics! the situation sucks, but I sincerely hope you can come here and have a little laugh at how crazy some people can be..

BagAngel · Jun 24th, 2009, 08:30 PM

Thanks Rachey, coming here keeps me sane in the midst of madness like this, LOL! I will indeed post pics of whatever she returns, I am prepared to be shocked!

Rimma13 · Jun 24th, 2009, 08:43 PM

OMG BagAngel, I've been following this thread and when I read that she plans to return it, the first thought that came to me was that she HAS to scratch it to make all those conversations plausible. If it is scratched, I would send it back to her! Keep fighting!!! I'm sure it'll all work out for you.

BagAngel · Jun 24th, 2009, 08:46 PM

No point in sending it back to her as paypal will already have refunded her then she would have money & item. I am sure it will be in bad shape though when I get it :(

love2shop_26 · Jun 24th, 2009, 09:15 PM

Oh man! I can't believe this is how it turned out at the end. Paypal sucks! Sorry that you have to go through this.

applepielicious · Jun 24th, 2009, 09:44 PM

BadAngel, if you don't have sufficient funds in your PayPal account to cover the refund, it'll become negative, then PayPal will take money out of your checking/savings account that's linked to your PayPal account. They're known to do this and nobody can stop them from doing it. If you don't have enough funds in your checking/savings account, PayPal will send you to collections and the collection agency will start bothering you nonstop.

I hope this will not happen but leaving your account with a negative balance will only hurt you in the long run.

Email your buyer and tell her if your keyring doesn't come back in the same condition as the day you sent it out, you'll sue her in a small claims court. Tell her you have pictures of it before you shipped it out.

I can't believe PayPal and the monkeys they're employing. This makes me sad.

CGS · Jun 24th, 2009, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by BagAngel

No point in sending it back to her as paypal will already have refunded her then she would have money & item. I am sure it will be in bad shape though when I get it :(

Ok, what if she sends it back and its empty? Or a replica? Do they believe her since they have already sided with her, because honestly this could happen, and then are you totally screwed? I am sorry to even ask or think this, but this is total b.s.

mzbag · Jun 24th, 2009, 10:01 PM

That is horrible. If a buyer does not pay you in the time frame given on the auction just kindly advise them the item is no longer available for purchase. I do understand you were being kind he/she the buyer is just rude. Also, I was thinking maybe the buyer used the merchandise or is trying to return merchandise he/she has that is not good and keep your's.

I hope everything works out in your favor.

titania029 · Jun 24th, 2009, 10:02 PM

I have no words

mzbag · Jun 24th, 2009, 10:07 PM

Oh wow paypal sided with the buyer. Also, just remember a dishonet person does not have any good coming their way.

What is that buyers ebay handle put he/she on the TPF list as a non payer/theif!

BagAngel · Jun 24th, 2009, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by applepielicious

BadAngel, if you don't have sufficient funds in your PayPal account to cover the refund, it'll become negative, then PayPal will take money out of your checking/savings account that's linked to your PayPal account. They're known to do this and nobody can stop them from doing it. If you don't have enough funds in your checking/savings account, PayPal will send you to collections and the collection agency will start bothering you nonstop.

I hope this will not happen but leaving your account with a negative balance will only hurt you in the long run.

Email your buyer and tell her if your keyring doesn't come back in the same condition as the day you sent it out, you'll sue her in a small claims court. Tell her you have pictures of it before you shipped it out.

I can't believe PayPal and the monkeys they're employing. This makes me sad.

You mean that they can take the money out of the bank account that I withdraw money to??? I don't think the bank would allow that without my authorisation?

I don't think that emailing her will do any good, she is claiming it damaged so will not send it back as she got it. truthfully I am sorry now that I didn't give her the 75 refund at least I would only have been out 75usd not the lot!

BagAngel · Jun 24th, 2009, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by mzbag

Oh wow paypal sided with the buyer. Also, just remember a dishonet person does not have any good coming their way.

What is that buyers ebay handle put he/she on the TPF list as a non payer/theif!

She is drummereli, I will put her on the list

denimbarks · Jun 24th, 2009, 11:19 PM

What I've heard that Paypal will do is reverse a transfer you've made to your bank account in order to get its money back.

applepielicious · Jun 24th, 2009, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by BagAngel

You mean that they can take the money out of the bank account that I withdraw money to??? I don't think the bank would allow that without my authorisation?

I don't think that emailing her will do any good, she is claiming it damaged so will not send it back as she got it. truthfully I am sorry now that I didn't give her the 75 refund at least I would only have been out 75usd not the lot!

Yes, PayPal is able to do that. :( I know it sucks but that's the truth. If you don't want your credit ruined, I suggest you have enough funds in your PayPal account to cover the refund.

If you give in to her demands, she's just going to do it to other sellers. I'd fight to the end with nasty buyers like this.

Jun 24th, 2009, 07:36 PM	#256
BagAngel OP Louis Vuitton Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 20,249	She really has to damage it doesn't she, she cannot send it back in good condition. SIGH!
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Jun 24th, 2009, 08:16 PM	#257
RACHEY07 just one more... Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,495	Bagangel, I am so sorry! This is so awful. I have been following this thread from the start and was so shocked to see the latest update. I really hope that you will not be discouraged from being a wonderful ebay seller. it sounds like you have been doing this for a long time and this is your first awful experience. I am a firm believer in karma and I think this "unbelievably nasty buyer" will get what's coming to her. Maybe paypal will let her get away with it, but in the end, it will come back and bite her in the you know what. She sounds like an awful person and it sucks that a good person like you has to come across her. but anyways, i'm very anxious to see what this psychopath sends back your way. Please post pics! the situation sucks, but I sincerely hope you can come here and have a little laugh at how crazy some people can be..
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Jun 24th, 2009, 08:30 PM	#258
BagAngel OP Louis Vuitton Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 20,249	Thanks Rachey, coming here keeps me sane in the midst of madness like this, LOL! I will indeed post pics of whatever she returns, I am prepared to be shocked!
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Jun 24th, 2009, 08:43 PM	#259
Rimma13 Live with no regrets Joined: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 685	OMG BagAngel, I've been following this thread and when I read that she plans to return it, the first thought that came to me was that she HAS to scratch it to make all those conversations plausible. If it is scratched, I would send it back to her! Keep fighting!!! I'm sure it'll all work out for you.
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Jun 24th, 2009, 08:46 PM	#260
BagAngel OP Louis Vuitton Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 20,249	No point in sending it back to her as paypal will already have refunded her then she would have money & item. I am sure it will be in bad shape though when I get it :(
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Jun 24th, 2009, 09:15 PM	#261
love2shop_26 Member Joined: Aug 2006 Location: ♥In my own little world♥ Posts: 2,903	Oh man! I can't believe this is how it turned out at the end. Paypal sucks! Sorry that you have to go through this.
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Jun 24th, 2009, 09:44 PM	#262
applepielicious Level: Pie Joined: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 93	BadAngel, if you don't have sufficient funds in your PayPal account to cover the refund, it'll become negative, then PayPal will take money out of your checking/savings account that's linked to your PayPal account. They're known to do this and nobody can stop them from doing it. If you don't have enough funds in your checking/savings account, PayPal will send you to collections and the collection agency will start bothering you nonstop. I hope this will not happen but leaving your account with a negative balance will only hurt you in the long run. Email your buyer and tell her if your keyring doesn't come back in the same condition as the day you sent it out, you'll sue her in a small claims court. Tell her you have pictures of it before you shipped it out. I can't believe PayPal and the monkeys they're employing. This makes me sad.

Jun 24th, 2009, 10:01 PM	#264
mzbag Member Joined: Apr 2009 Location: The Northwest Burbs,IL Posts: 594	That is horrible. If a buyer does not pay you in the time frame given on the auction just kindly advise them the item is no longer available for purchase. I do understand you were being kind he/she the buyer is just rude. Also, I was thinking maybe the buyer used the merchandise or is trying to return merchandise he/she has that is not good and keep your's. I hope everything works out in your favor.

Jun 24th, 2009, 10:02 PM	#265
titania029 Member Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 3,018	I have no words

Jun 24th, 2009, 10:07 PM	#266
mzbag Member Joined: Apr 2009 Location: The Northwest Burbs,IL Posts: 594	Oh wow paypal sided with the buyer. Also, just remember a dishonet person does not have any good coming their way. What is that buyers ebay handle put he/she on the TPF list as a non payer/theif!

Jun 24th, 2009, 11:19 PM	#269
denimbarks Sit. Stay. Shop. Joined: May 2007 Posts: 306	What I've heard that Paypal will do is reverse a transfer you've made to your bank account in order to get its money back.
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