transaction off of ebay?

jl89 · Jul 22nd, 2008, 06:37 PM

This has little to do with eBay but someone recently won something on ebay and I contacted them and said that if they weren't interested when they received the item that I would like to buy it for them. They contacted me yesterday with a reasonable price. My question for y'all is that she doesn't want to put it up as a listing and wants me to pay her through paypal. She has great feedback on ebay, but is there any protection for me at all in this transaction if we do not go through ebay and only paypal? Will the emails/our correspondence suffice should the situation get sticky? TIA for your answers!!

shoulderache · Jul 22nd, 2008, 06:43 PM

It depends. She may not be able to relist it simply because of eBay's new restrictions. If you pay through paypal you still have the same dispute system as you would if you had bought it on ebay, and if that works for you it might be fine. Have her send you an invoice on paypal and have her fill out the details of what you are getting, when it is being sent, etc... If you are comfortable with the seller and it might be fine.

I think the main reason eBay discourages deals off of ebay is because they don't get fees from transactions not on their website.

jl89 · Jul 22nd, 2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shoulderache

It depends. She may not be able to relist it simply because of eBay's new restrictions. If you pay through paypal you still have the same dispute system as you would if you had bought it on ebay, and if that works for you it might be fine. Have her send you an invoice on paypal and have her fill out the details of what you are getting, when it is being sent, etc... If you are comfortable with the seller and it might be fine.

I think the main reason eBay discourages deals off of ebay is because they don't get fees from transactions not on their website.

Thanks for the great advice! I definitely wouldn't have known/done any of what you suggested unless i had asked here!

shoulderache · Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:03 PM

No problem! Just make sure that you have what you are getting, etc... in writing and if she does it through the invoice in paypal, they will also have an official record of it too, so if you need to file a dispute on there you can show what you were supposed to get. I hope it works out--make sure that the seller is one with ample positive feedback!

anilumagloire · Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:08 PM

I'd also check the status of her Paypal account. Make sure it's verified so it's attached to a bank account. More safety for you.

handbagcrzy · Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:14 PM

I've done transactions like this before we did part trade part cash for what I was selling. It worked well and both buyer and seller are still protected. Ita about having her invoice you with all the details

shoulderache · Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:15 PM

Checking to make sure that she is verified is a great idea! The more protections that you can make sure that you have, the better and that is a good one to have.

bibliophile · Aug 25th, 2008, 12:57 AM

hi, am having the same predicament as well, cos the seller wants me to pay directly via paypal. have searched thru old threads, and there is some conflicting info (changes in policy i guess) so can i just confirm again that if there's a paypal invoice i'll be insured for the entire amount, and not just $200?? TIA!!

emald37 · Aug 25th, 2008, 10:31 AM

^The buyer protection amounts are only for eBay transactions. For off-Ebay, it is just how much they are able to recover from the seller's account.

mmmsc · Aug 25th, 2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by emald37

^The buyer protection amounts are only for eBay transactions. For off-Ebay, it is just how much they are able to recover from the seller's account.

Yikes didn't know that! I thought you were covered by PP if seller sent a PP invoice. I have done this quite a few times and luckily had no problems. I did a few questionable things before I came to this forum and started finding out stuff.. thanks everyone! Wonder if there is a place that would explain all this (about paypal covering only eBay transactions)???

emald37 · Aug 25th, 2008, 10:50 AM

^Yes, you can find it all in their user agreement. This is why even when paying for eBay transactions you have to make sure it is properly linked to be covered (used pay now button in Ebay or enter item number into Paypal)

purse-n-boots · Aug 25th, 2008, 11:41 AM

What eBay restrictions? Someone can't relist an item they bought? Yah right!

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoulderache

It depends. She may not be able to relist it simply because of eBay's new restrictions. If you pay through paypal you still have the same dispute system as you would if you had bought it on ebay, and if that works for you it might be fine. Have her send you an invoice on paypal and have her fill out the details of what you are getting, when it is being sent, etc... If you are comfortable with the seller and it might be fine.

I think the main reason eBay discourages deals off of ebay is because they don't get fees from transactions not on their website.

BeBear · Aug 25th, 2008, 12:38 PM

For off-eBay transactions, you're only protected if the seller doesn't ship. If the seller ships a box of rocks to you, tough luck. There is also no Buyer's protection, though they say they'll try to recover as much as they can.

I'd suggest you to insist a proper but simple eBay listing and volunteer to pay for the Ebay listing and FVF fees so you can get the protection needed.

onegirlcreative · Aug 25th, 2008, 06:54 PM

I have been doing this for a long time now (several years). I send my graphic design clients invoices from PP all the time, because obviously, I don't list it on *bay, but we both still have the protection of PP, regardless.

As much as *bay wants you to think that it's ONLY safe to deal through them, it isn't. That's what PP is for, IMO. So far, I have been doing this for a long time and haven't been burned (knock on wood).

Good luck.

bibliophile · Aug 26th, 2008, 01:03 AM

thanks everyone. eeks, too scary to think that my money could go into a black hole, and from what i can gather from old threads, paypal doesn't seem very assiduous in getting money back for buyers.

anyway, asked the seller to let me go thru eBay, and his response was, er, well, there was no response, looks like he's decided to ignore me. he replied with amazing alacrity while i was submitting an offer/etc days ago.... oh well. not meant to be i guess.

thanks anyway!

Jul 22nd, 2008, 06:37 PM	#1
jl89 Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 38	transaction off of ebay? This has little to do with eBay but someone recently won something on ebay and I contacted them and said that if they weren't interested when they received the item that I would like to buy it for them. They contacted me yesterday with a reasonable price. My question for y'all is that she doesn't want to put it up as a listing and wants me to pay her through paypal. She has great feedback on ebay, but is there any protection for me at all in this transaction if we do not go through ebay and only paypal? Will the emails/our correspondence suffice should the situation get sticky? TIA for your answers!!

Jul 22nd, 2008, 06:43 PM	#2
shoulderache Member Joined: May 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 741	It depends. She may not be able to relist it simply because of eBay's new restrictions. If you pay through paypal you still have the same dispute system as you would if you had bought it on ebay, and if that works for you it might be fine. Have her send you an invoice on paypal and have her fill out the details of what you are getting, when it is being sent, etc... If you are comfortable with the seller and it might be fine. I think the main reason eBay discourages deals off of ebay is because they don't get fees from transactions not on their website. __________________ Visit me at http://shoulderache.ecrater.com Always authentic and with no questions asked returns!

Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:03 PM	#4
shoulderache Member Joined: May 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 741	No problem! Just make sure that you have what you are getting, etc... in writing and if she does it through the invoice in paypal, they will also have an official record of it too, so if you need to file a dispute on there you can show what you were supposed to get. I hope it works out--make sure that the seller is one with ample positive feedback! __________________ Visit me at http://shoulderache.ecrater.com Always authentic and with no questions asked returns!

Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:08 PM	#5
anilumagloire Member Joined: May 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,039	I'd also check the status of her Paypal account. Make sure it's verified so it's attached to a bank account. More safety for you. __________________ Anilu {NO SHRINKING VIOLET} Need... * Light gray Matinee * Glazed almond Matinee Pleeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!!!!!!

Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:15 PM	#7
shoulderache Member Joined: May 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 741	Checking to make sure that she is verified is a great idea! The more protections that you can make sure that you have, the better and that is a good one to have. __________________ Visit me at http://shoulderache.ecrater.com Always authentic and with no questions asked returns!

Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:14 PM	#6
handbagcrzy Member Joined: Aug 2007 Location: VA Posts: 188	I've done transactions like this before we did part trade part cash for what I was selling. It worked well and both buyer and seller are still protected. Ita about having her invoice you with all the details

Aug 25th, 2008, 12:57 AM	#8
bibliophile Newly obsessed Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 284	hi, am having the same predicament as well, cos the seller wants me to pay directly via paypal. have searched thru old threads, and there is some conflicting info (changes in policy i guess) so can i just confirm again that if there's a paypal invoice i'll be insured for the entire amount, and not just $200?? TIA!!

Aug 25th, 2008, 10:31 AM	#9
emald37 Member Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,423	^The buyer protection amounts are only for eBay transactions. For off-Ebay, it is just how much they are able to recover from the seller's account.

Aug 25th, 2008, 10:50 AM	#11
emald37 Member Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,423	^Yes, you can find it all in their user agreement. This is why even when paying for eBay transactions you have to make sure it is properly linked to be covered (used pay now button in Ebay or enter item number into Paypal) Last edited by emald37; Aug 25th, 2008 at 10:53 AM.

Aug 25th, 2008, 12:38 PM	#13
BeBear Member Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 182	For off-eBay transactions, you're only protected if the seller doesn't ship. If the seller ships a box of rocks to you, tough luck. There is also no Buyer's protection, though they say they'll try to recover as much as they can. I'd suggest you to insist a proper but simple eBay listing and volunteer to pay for the Ebay listing and FVF fees so you can get the protection needed.

Aug 25th, 2008, 06:54 PM	#14
onegirlcreative Job Needed for LV!!! Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,077	I have been doing this for a long time now (several years). I send my graphic design clients invoices from PP all the time, because obviously, I don't list it on bay, but we both still have the protection of PP, regardless. As much as bay wants you to think that it's ONLY safe to deal through them, it isn't. That's what PP is for, IMO. So far, I have been doing this for a long time and haven't been burned (knock on wood). Good luck. __________________ One Girl Creative :: Graphic Design :: Pop Art :: www.onegirlcreative.com

Aug 26th, 2008, 01:03 AM	#15
bibliophile Newly obsessed Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 284	thanks everyone. eeks, too scary to think that my money could go into a black hole, and from what i can gather from old threads, paypal doesn't seem very assiduous in getting money back for buyers. anyway, asked the seller to let me go thru eBay, and his response was, er, well, there was no response, looks like he's decided to ignore me. he replied with amazing alacrity while i was submitting an offer/etc days ago.... oh well. not meant to be i guess. thanks anyway!