Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake?

sea0fyears · Dec 31st, 2006, 02:01 AM

I was just browsing for deals on eBay when I found this and after requesting more info on the item I'm pretty sure it's just a 'good' fake (although I personally feel nothing can really be GOOD about a fake)... The crest on the tiangular logo has the "bubbles" that in my experience are a red flag for fakes, plus the guy had a "selling this for my sister" story which makes me think he's not really sure about the authenticity.

So anyway... I thanked him for his additional info and he made an attempt to encourage me to bid. I have already reported the auction, but I don't think eBay will pull it with the info on the listing. Should I respond to his last email and let him know his item is probably fake?

ishopndrop · Dec 31st, 2006, 09:15 AM

I think they usually know ..By eBay rules you are not suppose to say it is"auction interference"I hate those stories I hit the back button every time

sea0fyears · Dec 31st, 2006, 11:44 AM

Yeah... I just feel awful for the bidder who will probably win the item and find out it's fake or think it's real because they can't tell.

kitskats · Dec 31st, 2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sea0fyears

I was just browsing for deals on eBay when I found this and after requesting more info on the item I'm pretty sure it's just a 'good' fake (although I personally feel nothing can really be GOOD about a fake)... The crest on the tiangular logo has the "bubbles" that in my experience are a red flag for fakes, plus the guy had a "selling this for my sister" story which makes me think he's not really sure about the authenticity.

So anyway... I thanked him for his additional info and he made an attempt to encourage me to bid. I have already reported the auction, but I don't think eBay will pull it with the info on the listing. Should I respond to his last email and let him know his item is probably fake?

Just curious - wondering what you meant by "bubbles"?

sea0fyears · Dec 31st, 2006, 12:21 PM

On the PRADA triangular plate there is a tiny crest. The bottom of the tiny crest should be a smooth line comprised of 5 even smaller vertical 'lines' that make 5 'boxes' along the edge of the crest, with the two on the ends being miniscule and horizontal. I have never in my lifetime seen an authentic PRADA piece with anything other than this exact tiny crest. I have seen some that are so old that the metal has worn down to the enamel and the 'box edges' are broken, but not often.

As the seller put it in one of his emails "you'd really have to be looking for it to even notice it..." Well, yeah; Because that's a good way to tell if something is fake. The bottom of the tiny crests on AAA fakes have 5 O's (ooooo), not boxes. These fakes are the ones used in store return scams and I've seen several in Off Saks stores. Nylon pieces are most often faked like this, so you REALLY have to know what to look for.

photoobsessive · Dec 31st, 2006, 12:47 PM

sea of years- that is WONDERFUL to know! i have got to go write that down. great info.

kitskats · Dec 31st, 2006, 12:54 PM

Oh, ok- interesting.

The inside wall pockets of authentic Prada bags carry a tiny white tag with a number on it. No tag=fake bag.

sea0fyears · Dec 31st, 2006, 10:25 PM

I'm glad to help out. I was totally in love with Prada's entire nylon line throughout college and it still holds a place in my heart. I can authenticate almost any piece from that collection simply because I've owned them all.

Bags4Bubbles · Jan 1st, 2007, 10:11 AM

Whoa.... Ok... So apparently I need to start hanging out in the Prada forum as well. I was wanting to get my sister a Prada as a gift, but have no IDEA how to authenticate them... There are fakes at places like OFF Saks too??

I'm sorry, because I know your probably explained this as throughly as possible - but I am still confused! Are we talking on the emblem or inside the bag, about the lines and circles thing?

See you in the Prada forum soon... I need to learn more. TIA!!

sgaotw · Jan 1st, 2007, 10:21 PM

but you can't really see the crest from the pictures... how can you tell if it's fake?

mariska · Jan 2nd, 2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sea0fyears

I have never in my lifetime seen an authentic PRADA piece with anything other than this exact tiny crest.

I have a Prada bag I bought from Neiman Marcus years ago - no crest. It's made of nylon.

sea0fyears · Jan 6th, 2007, 01:34 PM

I've attached a picture of the crest I'm talking about. I realize some Prada's have a solid enamel triangle with only the word "PRADA" on it, but the one I'm talking about is attached. I've added an arrow to point out the 'boxes' I'm talking about. This crest is from a checkbook cover where the longest side of the triangle is about 3cm.

susan-eric · Jan 6th, 2007, 03:11 PM

There was a discussion of the crests on another forum about a year ago, along with photos. Apparently, there's a lot of variability in the crests of the authentic Pradas, as there is with Prada fonts, and it can be difficult to generalize purely on that basis. I've just pulled mine out to look and they are not the same as one another. Also, I'm not sure that those white tags mean anything. Although I have never seen a Prada bag without one, I've known of other people who have authentic bags that don't have them. Prada has not been totally consistent over the years. I can't speak to the bag that started this discussion. I know nothing about nylon Prada. My experience though with emailing sellers that their bags are fake, in cases where I was certain, has not been positive.

sgaotw · Jan 6th, 2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sea0fyears

I've attached a picture of the crest I'm talking about. I realize some Prada's have a solid enamel triangle with only the word "PRADA" on it, but the one I'm talking about is attached. I've added an arrow to point out the 'boxes' I'm talking about. This crest is from a checkbook cover where the longest side of the triangle is about 3cm.

I thought the solid enamel triangle with only the word PRADA was for keychains only... maybe i need to keep myself updated

I've also heard that the crest is not consistent. The font as well differs slightly, depending on when the bag was made.

sea0fyears · Jan 6th, 2007, 05:18 PM

My knowlege is limited to the past 10 years of their nylon collection (since I'm only 24) and that's when I started collecting.

Dec 31st, 2006, 02:01 AM	#1
sea0fyears Ready or not... Location: Arizona	Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? I was just browsing for deals on eBay when I found this and after requesting more info on the item I'm pretty sure it's just a 'good' fake (although I personally feel nothing can really be GOOD about a fake)... The crest on the tiangular logo has the "bubbles" that in my experience are a red flag for fakes, plus the guy had a "selling this for my sister" story which makes me think he's not really sure about the authenticity. So anyway... I thanked him for his additional info and he made an attempt to encourage me to bid. I have already reported the auction, but I don't think eBay will pull it with the info on the listing. Should I respond to his last email and let him know his item is probably fake? __________________ Come visit my purse collection!! (new stuff on BOTTOM of page 3) 2008 Wishlist ~ Black Prada Nylon Backpack ~ Neverfull MM in Damier (got it.. love it!) ~ "Return to Tiffany's" oval bracelet ~ Damier Speedy 30 (got it) ~ Agenda PM, style undecided ~A new Hair style. (got it.. maybe once I'm brave enough I'll post pics)

Dec 31st, 2006, 09:15 AM	#2
ishopndrop GIVE ME BAAAGGGSSS!! Location: RIO GRANDE VALLEY	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? I think they usually know ..By eBay rules you are not suppose to say it is"auction interference"I hate those stories I hit the back button every time

Dec 31st, 2006, 11:44 AM	#3
sea0fyears Ready or not... Location: Arizona	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? Yeah... I just feel awful for the bidder who will probably win the item and find out it's fake or think it's real because they can't tell. __________________ Come visit my purse collection!! (new stuff on BOTTOM of page 3) 2008 Wishlist ~ Black Prada Nylon Backpack ~ Neverfull MM in Damier (got it.. love it!) ~ "Return to Tiffany's" oval bracelet ~ Damier Speedy 30 (got it) ~ Agenda PM, style undecided ~A new Hair style. (got it.. maybe once I'm brave enough I'll post pics)

Dec 31st, 2006, 12:21 PM	#5
sea0fyears Ready or not... Location: Arizona	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? On the PRADA triangular plate there is a tiny crest. The bottom of the tiny crest should be a smooth line comprised of 5 even smaller vertical 'lines' that make 5 'boxes' along the edge of the crest, with the two on the ends being miniscule and horizontal. I have never in my lifetime seen an authentic PRADA piece with anything other than this exact tiny crest. I have seen some that are so old that the metal has worn down to the enamel and the 'box edges' are broken, but not often. As the seller put it in one of his emails "you'd really have to be looking for it to even notice it..." Well, yeah; Because that's a good way to tell if something is fake. The bottom of the tiny crests on AAA fakes have 5 O's (ooooo), not boxes. These fakes are the ones used in store return scams and I've seen several in Off Saks stores. Nylon pieces are most often faked like this, so you REALLY have to know what to look for. __________________ Come visit my purse collection!! (new stuff on BOTTOM of page 3) 2008 Wishlist ~ Black Prada Nylon Backpack ~ Neverfull MM in Damier (got it.. love it!) ~ "Return to Tiffany's" oval bracelet ~ Damier Speedy 30 (got it) ~ Agenda PM, style undecided ~A new Hair style. (got it.. maybe once I'm brave enough I'll post pics)

Dec 31st, 2006, 12:47 PM	#6
photoobsessive hold me back, girls Location: "Sunny Sunny" So Fla	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? sea of years- that is WONDERFUL to know! i have got to go write that down. great info.

Dec 31st, 2006, 12:54 PM	#7
kitskats bizzy making jools Location: USA	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? Oh, ok- interesting. The inside wall pockets of authentic Prada bags carry a tiny white tag with a number on it. No tag=fake bag. __________________

Dec 31st, 2006, 10:25 PM	#8
sea0fyears Ready or not... Location: Arizona	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? I'm glad to help out. I was totally in love with Prada's entire nylon line throughout college and it still holds a place in my heart. I can authenticate almost any piece from that collection simply because I've owned them all. __________________ Come visit my purse collection!! (new stuff on BOTTOM of page 3) 2008 Wishlist ~ Black Prada Nylon Backpack ~ Neverfull MM in Damier (got it.. love it!) ~ "Return to Tiffany's" oval bracelet ~ Damier Speedy 30 (got it) ~ Agenda PM, style undecided ~A new Hair style. (got it.. maybe once I'm brave enough I'll post pics)

Jan 1st, 2007, 10:11 AM	#9
Bags4Bubbles Bubbles luvs Bbags Location: Great Lakes, Baby!	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? Whoa.... Ok... So apparently I need to start hanging out in the Prada forum as well. I was wanting to get my sister a Prada as a gift, but have no IDEA how to authenticate them... There are fakes at places like OFF Saks too?? I'm sorry, because I know your probably explained this as throughly as possible - but I am still confused! Are we talking on the emblem or inside the bag, about the lines and circles thing? See you in the Prada forum soon... I need to learn more. TIA!!

Jan 1st, 2007, 10:21 PM	#10
sgaotw Member	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? but you can't really see the crest from the pictures... how can you tell if it's fake?

Jan 6th, 2007, 03:11 PM	#13
susan-eric Member	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? There was a discussion of the crests on another forum about a year ago, along with photos. Apparently, there's a lot of variability in the crests of the authentic Pradas, as there is with Prada fonts, and it can be difficult to generalize purely on that basis. I've just pulled mine out to look and they are not the same as one another. Also, I'm not sure that those white tags mean anything. Although I have never seen a Prada bag without one, I've known of other people who have authentic bags that don't have them. Prada has not been totally consistent over the years. I can't speak to the bag that started this discussion. I know nothing about nylon Prada. My experience though with emailing sellers that their bags are fake, in cases where I was certain, has not been positive.

Jan 6th, 2007, 05:18 PM	#15
sea0fyears Ready or not... Location: Arizona	Re: Should I tell this seller his PRADA is fake? My knowlege is limited to the past 10 years of their nylon collection (since I'm only 24) and that's when I started collecting. __________________ Come visit my purse collection!! (new stuff on BOTTOM of page 3) 2008 Wishlist ~ Black Prada Nylon Backpack ~ Neverfull MM in Damier (got it.. love it!) ~ "Return to Tiffany's" oval bracelet ~ Damier Speedy 30 (got it) ~ Agenda PM, style undecided ~A new Hair style. (got it.. maybe once I'm brave enough I'll post pics)