Is this a scam? Should I be worried? Buyer accusing me of selling a fake.

jjyounger · Jul 7th, 2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Hippiechick1969

I have been a member since 02'. Hippychick is my daughters account, which she opened to sell some of my stuff, since I did not want to ruin my original feedback, with the new policies.

Perhaps I can paste my credentials here, let me see if it works (1 neutral in 7 years and that was the buyers fault):

<a href="http://s54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...aptured-01.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...aptured-01.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

I have uncovered plenty, which you can see here (post#135):
Paypal wants the fake chanel??????

This info has been sent to several places, that are looking into it.

EBAY HAS RUINED MY BUSINESS AND I INTEND TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN, TO EXPOSE THEM!
I know that my photobucket photos are public. Most things are from using the ebay message board and I don't mind if people see them.

I believe that maybeimeow was referring to your Purse Forum membership, not your eBay membership. You are very new to tPF and are asking for sensitive information pertaining to personal eBay transactions, which would require giving you eBay user id's, etc. I understand her concern. You just joined the Forum and are asking things that I personally would not feel comfortable giving anyone.

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 7th, 2008, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by jjyounger

I believe that maybeimeow was referring to your Purse Forum membership, not your eBay membership. You are very new to tPF and are asking for sensitive information pertaining to personal eBay transactions, which would require giving you eBay user id's, etc. I understand her concern. You just joined the Forum and are asking things that I personally would not feel comfortable giving anyone.

If you don't feel safe, giving me the info, you can report the names/transactions to Ina Steiner, a highly respected reporter at Auctionbytes.com. She is using my info and investigating the info I have given her, so far. We are hoping to see another article soon, about it. She has already used some of my info, in this blog:

http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin....html#comments

If you'd rather protect the criminals, that is your perogative!

jjyounger · Jul 7th, 2008, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Hippiechick1969

If you don't feel safe, giving me the info, you can report the names/transactions to Ina Steiner, a highly respected reporter at Auctionbytes.com. She is using my info and investigating the info I have given her, so far. We are hoping to see another article soon, about it. She has already used some of my info, in this blog:

http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin....html#comments

If you'd rather protect the criminals, that is your perogative!

This is a very public forum. I'm familiar with Ina Steiner and admire her work. I also understand your frustration. However, I did not reply to this thread to be grilled about personal information or transactions.

What you don't seem to get is that there have been (and still are, I am sure) eBay reps who pose as simple tPF members, for reasons of their own. There have also been counterfeiters who joined to get information or victims.

We have learned, over time, to be very careful. It is not so much a matter of trusting or not trusting YOU, so I don't think you should take this quite so personally. It is a matter of giving confidential information about our eBay transactions to a perfect stranger. Surely, you can understand that particular reluctance.

It is unproductive and unnecessary to resort to accusations of "protecting the criminals." Any member of tPF would find that offensive.

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 7th, 2008, 03:26 PM

As I stated in the last post I understood that.
You can keep your info you yourself if you don't want to help or you can send it to Ina. No one is forcing you do do anything.

jjyounger · Jul 7th, 2008, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Hippiechick1969

As I stated in the last post I understood that.
You can keep your info you yourself if you don't want to help or you can send it to Ina. No one is forcing you do do anything.

ITA!

maybeimeow · Jul 7th, 2008, 05:18 PM

Sorry, ladies... my intention was not to create tension, just being cautious as jjyounger so articulately conveyed!

jjyounger · Jul 7th, 2008, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by maybeimeow

Sorry, ladies... my intention was not to create tension, just being cautious as jjyounger so articulately conveyed!

Thanks, sweetie. I understood your intention. It was what I tried to convey. Maybe I didn't do it well.

maybeimeow · Jul 8th, 2008, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by jjyounger

Thanks, sweetie. I understood your intention. It was what I tried to convey. Maybe I didn't do it well.

Oh, no I think your explanation was great!!

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 8th, 2008, 09:17 AM

Either way...If you have info on a fake item, report it to Ina Steiner at Auctionbytes.

mymeimei02 · Jul 8th, 2008, 09:40 AM

Thanks for the advice and support. I really do appericiate it. I just want to clarify that the buyer is accusing me of selling a fake item which it is not. I gurantee and stand behind the authenticity of the bag that I sold. I have 100% + feedback since 1999. I am not a store I was just trying to clean out my closet.Whether or not it is a legitimate buyer I just wanted to some advice on how to protect myself. I understand there a ton of fakes on eBay so I can see why one would be cautious. The way the e-mail was worded made me more suspicious and especially after the fact its been more than 2 months.
Hippiechick1969 are you also satisfactionguranteed*********?

jjyounger · Jul 8th, 2008, 09:47 AM

If it has been more than two months, I don't believe your buyer will have any success filing a dispute with PayPal. Did she ever leave feedback? Do you have proof of delivery or signature confirmation?

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 8th, 2008, 10:00 AM

Si

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 8th, 2008, 10:03 AM

My daughter is hippiechick on ebay. I liked the name she chose and it just popped into my head, when I registered here. Didn't want to use the satisfaction one, sounds a little demeaning on a message board.

aida · Jul 8th, 2008, 10:13 AM

maybeimeow, you didn't by chance send the bag to the philippines? I recently posted about how I was scammed, and everything seems to be the same as your information (sold a bag, shipped to unconfirmed address, then a month later received an email claiming it was fake). After the buyer sent a nasty email saying i was a liar and sent a fake bag, then about 2 weeks later I was hit with a chargeback, and turns out I was victim of a popular scam that has hit many TPFs and others. If you sent it to the Philippines, then I would be sure it is the same scam.
If not, then I would hope that in your situation, you will be protected by paypal. To be honest, I no longer trust paypal as they always seem to side with the buyers and offer little protection if the scammer is really good to find a way to cover all of their bases. I wish the best of luck to you!

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 8th, 2008, 10:21 AM

I have seen case after case after case, on the ebay feedback discussion board where sellers are getting ripped off for everything, not just fake stuff. People are getting chargebacks, left and right. Buyers are bidding and then finding another one for cheaper and just forgetting about the first one. This stuff is so ridiculous, it's a complete mess. I can't imagine what they were thinking, with these new rules and are they EVER going to change them?

They have to see what it has caused. If this stuff gets out in the open about Paypal and I am SURE that it will, they are going to be shut down. I wonder if ebay would fold along with them, being they were a part of it.

Very interesting to watch this unfold.

Jul 7th, 2008, 03:26 PM	#19
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	As I stated in the last post I understood that. You can keep your info you yourself if you don't want to help or you can send it to Ina. No one is forcing you do do anything.
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91

Jul 7th, 2008, 05:18 PM	#21
maybeimeow Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 300	Sorry, ladies... my intention was not to create tension, just being cautious as jjyounger so articulately conveyed!
maybeimeow Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 300

Jul 8th, 2008, 09:17 AM	#24
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	Either way...If you have info on a fake item, report it to Ina Steiner at Auctionbytes.
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91

Jul 8th, 2008, 10:00 AM	#27
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	Si
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91

Jul 8th, 2008, 10:03 AM	#28
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	My daughter is hippiechick on ebay. I liked the name she chose and it just popped into my head, when I registered here. Didn't want to use the satisfaction one, sounds a little demeaning on a message board.
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91

Jul 8th, 2008, 09:40 AM	#25
mymeimei02 OP Member Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,331	Thanks for the advice and support. I really do appericiate it. I just want to clarify that the buyer is accusing me of selling a fake item which it is not. I gurantee and stand behind the authenticity of the bag that I sold. I have 100% + feedback since 1999. I am not a store I was just trying to clean out my closet.Whether or not it is a legitimate buyer I just wanted to some advice on how to protect myself. I understand there a ton of fakes on eBay so I can see why one would be cautious. The way the e-mail was worded made me more suspicious and especially after the fact its been more than 2 months. Hippiechick1969 are you also satisfactionguranteed*********?

Jul 8th, 2008, 09:47 AM	#26
jjyounger Judy Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,254	If it has been more than two months, I don't believe your buyer will have any success filing a dispute with PayPal. Did she ever leave feedback? Do you have proof of delivery or signature confirmation?

Jul 8th, 2008, 10:13 AM	#29
aida Member Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 23	maybeimeow, you didn't by chance send the bag to the philippines? I recently posted about how I was scammed, and everything seems to be the same as your information (sold a bag, shipped to unconfirmed address, then a month later received an email claiming it was fake). After the buyer sent a nasty email saying i was a liar and sent a fake bag, then about 2 weeks later I was hit with a chargeback, and turns out I was victim of a popular scam that has hit many TPFs and others. If you sent it to the Philippines, then I would be sure it is the same scam. If not, then I would hope that in your situation, you will be protected by paypal. To be honest, I no longer trust paypal as they always seem to side with the buyers and offer little protection if the scammer is really good to find a way to cover all of their bases. I wish the best of luck to you!
aida Member Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 23

Jul 8th, 2008, 10:21 AM	#30
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	I have seen case after case after case, on the ebay feedback discussion board where sellers are getting ripped off for everything, not just fake stuff. People are getting chargebacks, left and right. Buyers are bidding and then finding another one for cheaper and just forgetting about the first one. This stuff is so ridiculous, it's a complete mess. I can't imagine what they were thinking, with these new rules and are they EVER going to change them? They have to see what it has caused. If this stuff gets out in the open about Paypal and I am SURE that it will, they are going to be shut down. I wonder if ebay would fold along with them, being they were a part of it. Very interesting to watch this unfold.
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	Last edited Jul 8th, 2008 at 10:24 AM.