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mmmsc · Oct 11th, 2009, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by itsonly4me

^^Thanks for the tip although it was not sent through the mail. I met her in person.

All I can say is TG you didn't give her $cash$!

itsonly4me · Oct 11th, 2009, 08:19 PM

^^^I KNOW! I almost did too, then at the last minute said I would pay the 27 dollar pp fee if they accepted paypal. I thought I would be able to authenticate it, but seeing it in person in the bright sunlight with the seller and her husband and my bf all staring at me.. I guess that impaired my judgement! LOL Not to mention its a darn good fake!

kkayc · Oct 11th, 2009, 08:20 PM

You can file a claim with the FBI.* I had someone scam me once on a fake LV for about $600, they scammed another person after me.* That person filed a claim with the FBI and contacted me so I was also listed as a victim.* It took about a year or 2, I didn't do anything the FBI did everything and the person was prosecuted.* I'd receive emails from the FBI from time to time letting me know the status of the case.There's a way to do it online or just send a letter to your local FBI office with all the info, her Ebay id, etc.

itsonly4me · Oct 11th, 2009, 08:25 PM

^^Very interesting. I will keep that in mind.

kkayc · Oct 11th, 2009, 08:35 PM

Ahh, all the crap/paperwork you had to provide to the credit card company is the same you'd provide to the FBI. It's trademark infringement and selling fake goods.

Also, these sort of enterprises are not small time. I mean they scam people for monies, staying at an amount that's enough to make a good amount of money but low enough that most people won't report them, blaming themselves, or if they do the local cops won't care. The FBI does, but for other reasons besides theft. In the end they end up scamming people out of thousands and thousands of dollars. While the victim, like yourself, is left kicking yourself. Yeah, it's naive in this day and age, but not because you were wrong, just that you didn't realize that a small amount of people are thieves.

mbparcia · Oct 11th, 2009, 10:30 PM

Please post her Ebay Id so we can know who the scammer is.
She KNOWS the bag is fake, otherwise the would take it back.
Does she think you are trying to send her a fake bag or is she just saying the bag is authentic? anyway, everything that your seller says is BS and excuses to not give you your money back!

DISHONEST seller!!

Lvbabydoll · Oct 11th, 2009, 10:52 PM

^She posted it on the first page, post #5.

IO4M- I'm so sorry to hear you're STILL dealing with this!!

alij78 · Oct 11th, 2009, 11:03 PM

Argh what a complete nightmare
I just can't believe the nerve of these people
if I had inadvertently sold a fake (which would never happen btw) I would be so mortified and ashamed - it just shows this seller knows what she is selling is fake to get all defensive etc
I would highlight that what she has done is to break the law and that not only is the credit card co investigating but that they usually refer things like this to the FBI etc and hopefully that will give her a scare

itsonly4me · Oct 12th, 2009, 07:25 AM

Thanks LVbabydoll and alij- I hope in the end that justice is done!

kristie · Oct 12th, 2009, 05:59 PM

File a police report against her. I had a fake LV sold to me once and I contacted the police where the seller lived. I gave them all fo her info....turns out she had done this to more than just me. There were multiple police reports on file for her for the same deal...counterfeit items.....

The police obtained a search warrant for her home and confiscated all of her bags and computers (for records). She was ARRESTED.......happy ending for all.

Please file one against this witch. You can just tell she KNOWS it is fake because she is being so rude! An innocent person just does not act this way at all.

itsonly4me · Oct 12th, 2009, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by kristie

File a police report against her. I had a fake LV sold to me once and I contacted the police where the seller lived. I gave them all fo her info....turns out she had done this to more than just me. There were multiple police reports on file for her for the same deal...counterfeit items.....

The police obtained a search warrant for her home and confiscated all of her bags and computers (for records). She was ARRESTED.......happy ending for all.

Please file one against this witch. You can just tell she KNOWS it is fake because she is being so rude! An innocent person just does not act this way at all.

I was considering this as a last resort if I didnt get the CC to rule in my favor. Do you think I should file a report anyway,. even if I do get the money back?

aimtree · Oct 12th, 2009, 07:45 PM

It might be possible that she doesn't know it's fake and is scared that you are going to do a bait and switch on her (that's why she might be being rude/defensive?)
I think your CC will probably get your money back and she does seem a little overly rude TBH so it's kind of hard to tell. I guess you just have to go with your gut instinct, I'm sure it will all work out for you:)

chloehandbags · Oct 12th, 2009, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by itsonly4me

"Just spoke to paypal. HA! You are in for a surprise! I told you not to count your chickens...you have NOT been awarded anything, simply opened a dispute, which YOU initiated as it was told to us that your 1st dispute was declines, so you filed a second. Don't try to scam people, it never works! "

Sounds like a scammer to me...

How many people, who made an honest mistake, would talk like that?

abbiesmommy · Oct 12th, 2009, 10:02 PM

What a scammer.She for sure knows it is fake,if not before for sure now.As everyone knows Carol Diva KNOWS her LVs.I would be mortified if I ever sold anyone anything fake--NEVER will happen-but ,would be sick.. I cannot believe her being sooo hateful to you.I am soo sorry I FOR SURE would be on the phone with her police department tomorrow asap.Who knows how many others their have been.She has low feedback maybe because she has done this over and over possibly??

kristie · Oct 12th, 2009, 10:25 PM

YES! Even if she gives you your money back, file a police report. Maybe it will scare her from doing it to another person. Do not screw around with people like her. Call tomorrow to her local PD/Sheriff's Office and tell them you want a police report and to pursue criminal charges against her for fraud and theft. After you file the report, send her an email telling her you filed a police report at her local PD listing her as the suspect in a fraud/grand theft incident that occurred by her selling you a counterfeit bag. State that you are pursuing criminal charges against her if she wishes to continue this little charade.

However, if you wait until AFTER you get your money back to file a report, the police *may* tell you that since there is now no monetary loss, they won't take a report........they still should but your case is weak that way and the District Attorney would throw it in the trash since you got your money back KWIM?

Oct 11th, 2009, 08:19 PM	#17
itsonly4me OP LV Addict Joined: May 2007 Location: PA Posts: 4,858	^^^I KNOW! I almost did too, then at the last minute said I would pay the 27 dollar pp fee if they accepted paypal. I thought I would be able to authenticate it, but seeing it in person in the bright sunlight with the seller and her husband and my bf all staring at me.. I guess that impaired my judgement! LOL Not to mention its a darn good fake!
	__________________ Rachel

Oct 11th, 2009, 08:25 PM	#19
itsonly4me OP LV Addict Joined: May 2007 Location: PA Posts: 4,858	^^Very interesting. I will keep that in mind.
	__________________ Rachel

Oct 11th, 2009, 08:35 PM	#20
kkayc Member Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Honolulu, Illinois Posts: 312	Ahh, all the crap/paperwork you had to provide to the credit card company is the same you'd provide to the FBI. It's trademark infringement and selling fake goods. Also, these sort of enterprises are not small time. I mean they scam people for monies, staying at an amount that's enough to make a good amount of money but low enough that most people won't report them, blaming themselves, or if they do the local cops won't care. The FBI does, but for other reasons besides theft. In the end they end up scamming people out of thousands and thousands of dollars. While the victim, like yourself, is left kicking yourself. Yeah, it's naive in this day and age, but not because you were wrong, just that you didn't realize that a small amount of people are thieves.
	Last edited by kkayc; Oct 11th, 2009 at 08:46 PM.

Oct 11th, 2009, 10:52 PM	#22
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Oct 11th, 2009, 11:03 PM	#23
alij78 Member Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 929	Argh what a complete nightmare I just can't believe the nerve of these people if I had inadvertently sold a fake (which would never happen btw) I would be so mortified and ashamed - it just shows this seller knows what she is selling is fake to get all defensive etc I would highlight that what she has done is to break the law and that not only is the credit card co investigating but that they usually refer things like this to the FBI etc and hopefully that will give her a scare
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Oct 11th, 2009, 08:20 PM	#18
kkayc Member Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Honolulu, Illinois Posts: 312	You can file a claim with the FBI.* I had someone scam me once on a fake LV for about $600, they scammed another person after me.* That person filed a claim with the FBI and contacted me so I was also listed as a victim.* It took about a year or 2, I didn't do anything the FBI did everything and the person was prosecuted.* I'd receive emails from the FBI from time to time letting me know the status of the case.There's a way to do it online or just send a letter to your local FBI office with all the info, her Ebay id, etc.

Oct 11th, 2009, 10:30 PM	#21
mbparcia Loving Legacy and LV Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Show me state! Posts: 842	Please post her Ebay Id so we can know who the scammer is. She KNOWS the bag is fake, otherwise the would take it back. Does she think you are trying to send her a fake bag or is she just saying the bag is authentic? anyway, everything that your seller says is BS and excuses to not give you your money back! DISHONEST seller!!

Oct 12th, 2009, 07:25 AM	#24
itsonly4me OP LV Addict Joined: May 2007 Location: PA Posts: 4,858	Thanks LVbabydoll and alij- I hope in the end that justice is done!
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Oct 12th, 2009, 05:59 PM	#25
kristie "H" is for horses? Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,718	File a police report against her. I had a fake LV sold to me once and I contacted the police where the seller lived. I gave them all fo her info....turns out she had done this to more than just me. There were multiple police reports on file for her for the same deal...counterfeit items..... The police obtained a search warrant for her home and confiscated all of her bags and computers (for records). She was ARRESTED.......happy ending for all. Please file one against this witch. You can just tell she KNOWS it is fake because she is being so rude! An innocent person just does not act this way at all.
kristie "H" is for horses? Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,718	__________________ Uh oh...I think I may be more in danger of buying a Hermes saddle than a Birkin.......

Oct 12th, 2009, 07:45 PM	#27
aimtree Member Joined: Mar 2008 Location: pasadena CA Posts: 1,102	It might be possible that she doesn't know it's fake and is scared that you are going to do a bait and switch on her (that's why she might be being rude/defensive?) I think your CC will probably get your money back and she does seem a little overly rude TBH so it's kind of hard to tell. I guess you just have to go with your gut instinct, I'm sure it will all work out for you:)
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Oct 12th, 2009, 10:02 PM	#29
abbiesmommy PURSE FANATIC Joined: Apr 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 404	What a scammer.She for sure knows it is fake,if not before for sure now.As everyone knows Carol Diva KNOWS her LVs.I would be mortified if I ever sold anyone anything fake--NEVER will happen-but ,would be sick.. I cannot believe her being sooo hateful to you.I am soo sorry I FOR SURE would be on the phone with her police department tomorrow asap.Who knows how many others their have been.She has low feedback maybe because she has done this over and over possibly??

Oct 12th, 2009, 10:25 PM	#30
kristie "H" is for horses? Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,718	YES! Even if she gives you your money back, file a police report. Maybe it will scare her from doing it to another person. Do not screw around with people like her. Call tomorrow to her local PD/Sheriff's Office and tell them you want a police report and to pursue criminal charges against her for fraud and theft. After you file the report, send her an email telling her you filed a police report at her local PD listing her as the suspect in a fraud/grand theft incident that occurred by her selling you a counterfeit bag. State that you are pursuing criminal charges against her if she wishes to continue this little charade. However, if you wait until AFTER you get your money back to file a report, the police may tell you that since there is now no monetary loss, they won't take a report........they still should but your case is weak that way and the District Attorney would throw it in the trash since you got your money back KWIM?
kristie "H" is for horses? Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,718	__________________ Uh oh...I think I may be more in danger of buying a Hermes saddle than a Birkin.......

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