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devilangel · Jul 5th, 2009, 12:44 PM

ebay newbie being me of course.

I am looking to buy a Chanel handbag on eBay and contacted the seller.
The seller is with very low feedback. We have been talking through email the last few days and I have verified the bag is authentic here on tPF and that indeed he has the bag under his possession.

The problem here is he wants to do off of eBay.
However, he said I can place my $ on hold through Paypal till I have actually recieved the bag.

I don't know much about Paypal, honestly I didn't even know you can place $ on hold.
Is that a stupid thing to do or reasonable ?!

Please give me opinions! :(

Appreciate any help I can get!
Thank you~

mmmsc · Jul 5th, 2009, 12:46 PM

Don't do it, you won't be protected by PP alone. You need to go through ebay and pay with PP. Did you have it authenticated in the Chanel section here?? Or post the link and someone can help you maybe?

devilangel · Jul 5th, 2009, 12:51 PM

yep I have the bag authneticated, it's real!
My judgement is pretty much clouded all over right now because I wanted the bag for sooo long.. and it's a price that I am finally satisfied with. So I am so confused.
I know doing off of eBay is a no-no, but he seem to be willing to take a step back too with the $ on hold thing..

argh so what kind of potential trouble will I be getting into *IF* this were to happen?

DemRam · Jul 5th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by devilangel

yep I have the bag authneticated, it's real!
My judgement is pretty much clouded all over right now because I wanted the bag for sooo long.. and it's a price that I am finally satisfied with. So I am so confused.
I know doing off of eBay is a no-no, but he seem to be willing to take a step back too with the $ on hold thing..

argh so what kind of potential trouble will I be getting into *IF* this were to happen?

IF you did this you could be OUT the money AND the purse. Plus if you receive a fake bag instead of the one pictured you will have no ebay/Paypal protection.

I have never heard of putting money on "hold". Once it's in the seller's Paypal account it belongs to them.

I've been buying and selling on ebay for 11 years and I would NEVER consider doing this. Tell the seller if he doesn't play by the rules you will NOT be buying.

devilangel · Jul 5th, 2009, 01:11 PM

Thank you mmmsc & DemRam!!!

You guys helped me clear the clouds. I guess I am asking for trouble if I were to go with his wishes, aren't I?
I already feel iffy buying from eBay with his low feedback, why would I want even to do it off of eBay in the first place?!
Haha
Ok let me see what he will say if we are doing this through eBay..

mmmsc · Jul 5th, 2009, 01:38 PM

If he says he won't do it through Ebay, I would say forget it. Even if you DO do it through ebay, you don't know for sure...post the link? I too like above poster have never heard of PP holding the $$ until you receive the bag. I think that could be some sort of scam talk top convince you to do this.

DemRam · Jul 5th, 2009, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by mmmsc

If he says he won't do it through Ebay, I would say forget it. Even if you DO do it through ebay, you don't know for sure...post the link? I too like above poster have never heard of PP holding the $$ until you receive the bag. I think that could be some sort of scam talk top convince you to do this.

I agree mmmsc. But after years on ebay I am cynical about everything.

Just to clarify the Paypal "hold" policy. Paypal may decide to hold a seller's money for various reasons (like a new seller or a seller who has less than a certain feedback number, etc).

However, that would only apply to a transaction that is done "through" the ebay system. This seller would have access to the money right away and then what incentive do they have to ship? I know there are honest folks out there but why take a chance?

new.old.bag · Jul 5th, 2009, 03:04 PM

Also make sure to use a CREDIT CARD for this purchase, if you should decide to go through with it.

devilangel · Jul 5th, 2009, 03:29 PM

Ya you guys are right.. although I am desperate to find THE bag.. but it's just not worth it taking the risk.

And thanks for clarifying the on hold policy DemRam... don't know if he purposely or unproposely tricked me in beleiving I can hold my $!!

Oh yes new.old.bag, thanks! Luckily i added my CC to my paypal .. I stupidly bought a large purchase w/my bank account on my first purchase on eBay. Thankfully it was a good seller..

misspiggy_07 · Jul 5th, 2009, 09:44 PM

I am in a similar situation as you now. I am new to ebay and really wanna get this Chanel bag. I have been communicating to the seller (a reputable consignment store in HK with 100% positive feedback and a MPRS on ebay) via emails for the past few days. Just yesterday the seller has finally agree to my offer price and requested that should I decided to get the bag, they will only accept paypal echeques or bank transfer. Does this consider off ebay transaction? I have already told them I do not have any paypal account from the start.

Also I have requested for pics to show the stains/use marks on the bag on 2 occassions, however the seller's reply is that the stains/use marks are so unnoticeable that it cannot be captured on pics. And reiterated that the bag is in Excellent condition.

I have the bag authenticated at TPF too, right now I am still undecided to go ahead or not. Any advise from ebay gurus is much appreciated. TIA.

DemRam · Jul 5th, 2009, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by misspiggy_07

I am in a similar situation as you now. I am new to ebay and really wanna get this Chanel bag. I have been communicating to the seller (a reputable consignment store in HK with 100% positive feedback and a MPRS on ebay) via emails for the past few days. Just yesterday the seller has finally agree to my offer price and requested that should I decided to get the bag, they will only accept paypal echeques or bank transfer. Does this consider off ebay transaction? I have already told them I do not have any paypal account from the start.

Also I have requested for pics to show the stains/use marks on the bag on 2 occassions, however the seller's reply is that the stains/use marks are so unnoticeable that it cannot be captured on pics. And reiterated that the bag is in Excellent condition.

I have the bag authenticated at TPF too, right now I am still undecided to go ahead or not. Any advise from ebay gurus is much appreciated. TIA.

The answer is - it is an OFF EBAY TRANSACTION.

If you do not have Paypal do they really want you to pay by "bank transfer? Do you trust them?

Are you sure you feel secure with this? Most people have a "feel" about things.

Do you think the bag is worth the risk of paying without protection?

I'm just asking the questions that would go through my head.

misspiggy_07 · Jul 5th, 2009, 11:14 PM

Thanks DemRam. Honestly, after reading some not so pleasant ebay encounters on this forum plus this is really my first time dealing with ebay seller, the answer to the questions is a resounding NO.

Like what devilangel mentioned, although I am desperately in love with the bag.. but it's just not worth it taking the risk I guess.

VeryIntoChanel · Jul 7th, 2009, 02:48 PM

No matter how much you want a purse, NEVER pay via bank wire. Never.

I bank wired once to a seller in the US and i had sleepless nights. thank goodness the seller came through. Imagine the after thought of the seller bailing out on you? And you are out the cash and no bag??

Everyone thinks twice about lending money to people/ friends and you want to risk wiring money to someone you dont even know....

There are times i really want a bag so bad but when the seller mentioned only bank wire-the thought of owning the bag goes out the window. The fees incurred for Ebay and PP should be included in the seller's decision when he/ she priced the purse when listing. There really is no need for bank wire?

Sorry this may sound disappointing... this is just my 2 cents....

However, i wish you luck in your new found love :)

mmmsc · Jul 7th, 2009, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by VeryIntoChanel

No matter how much you want a purse, NEVER pay via bank wire. Never.

I bank wired once to a seller in the US and i had sleepless nights. thank goodness the seller came through. Imagine the after thought of the seller bailing out on you? And you are out the cash and no bag??

Everyone thinks twice about lending money to people/ friends and you want to risk wiring money to someone you dont even know....

There are times i really want a bag so bad but when the seller mentioned only bank wire-the thought of owning the bag goes out the window. The fees incurred for Ebay and PP should be included in the seller's decision when he/ she priced the purse when listing. There really is no need for bank wire?

Sorry this may sound disappointing... this is just my 2 cents....

However, i wish you luck in your new found love :)

Don't do this! There are VERY recent things like this that happened to seasoned tpfers - for example:
Nearly devastated - you know that sinking feeling? No tracking...No bag

Ellie Mae · Jul 7th, 2009, 03:56 PM

FOR MAXIMUM PROTECTION, use PP ONLY and ALWAYS pay w/ credit card. IMO, you need to set up a PP account and link it to a credit card (NOT a debit card or a bank account)

HM... wonder if OP's Ebay/My Poup Seller is the SAME seller from HK as in this thread...?? Sounds familiar.....
Help I think I've lost $1,300 and LV handbag

Jul 5th, 2009, 12:44 PM	#1
devilangel OP ♥ Chanel ♥ Miu Miu ♥ Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 633	pls help me!! ebay newbie need opinions! ebay newbie being me of course. I am looking to buy a Chanel handbag on eBay and contacted the seller. The seller is with very low feedback. We have been talking through email the last few days and I have verified the bag is authentic here on tPF and that indeed he has the bag under his possession. The problem here is he wants to do off of eBay. However, he said I can place my $ on hold through Paypal till I have actually recieved the bag. I don't know much about Paypal, honestly I didn't even know you can place $ on hold. Is that a stupid thing to do or reasonable ?! Please give me opinions! :( Appreciate any help I can get! Thank you~
	__________________ ~* DevilAngel ~ Yay ALL the Chanel goodies have arrived!!* Considering: Jumbo Flap, Camera Case, Valentine key charms, small Matelesse Lux in ? July 25, 2009

Jul 5th, 2009, 12:51 PM	#3
devilangel OP ♥ Chanel ♥ Miu Miu ♥ Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 633	yep I have the bag authneticated, it's real! My judgement is pretty much clouded all over right now because I wanted the bag for sooo long.. and it's a price that I am finally satisfied with. So I am so confused. I know doing off of eBay is a no-no, but he seem to be willing to take a step back too with the $ on hold thing.. argh so what kind of potential trouble will I be getting into IF this were to happen?
	__________________ ~* DevilAngel ~ Yay ALL the Chanel goodies have arrived!!* Considering: Jumbo Flap, Camera Case, Valentine key charms, small Matelesse Lux in ? July 25, 2009

Jul 5th, 2009, 01:11 PM	#5
devilangel OP ♥ Chanel ♥ Miu Miu ♥ Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 633	Thank you mmmsc & DemRam!!! You guys helped me clear the clouds. I guess I am asking for trouble if I were to go with his wishes, aren't I? I already feel iffy buying from eBay with his low feedback, why would I want even to do it off of eBay in the first place?! Haha Ok let me see what he will say if we are doing this through eBay..
	__________________ ~* DevilAngel ~ Yay ALL the Chanel goodies have arrived!!* Considering: Jumbo Flap, Camera Case, Valentine key charms, small Matelesse Lux in ? July 25, 2009

Jul 5th, 2009, 03:04 PM	#8
new.old.bag Member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 603	Also make sure to use a CREDIT CARD for this purchase, if you should decide to go through with it.
new.old.bag Member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 603

Jul 5th, 2009, 03:29 PM	#9
devilangel OP ♥ Chanel ♥ Miu Miu ♥ Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 633	Ya you guys are right.. although I am desperate to find THE bag.. but it's just not worth it taking the risk. And thanks for clarifying the on hold policy DemRam... don't know if he purposely or unproposely tricked me in beleiving I can hold my $!! Oh yes new.old.bag, thanks! Luckily i added my CC to my paypal .. I stupidly bought a large purchase w/my bank account on my first purchase on eBay. Thankfully it was a good seller..
	__________________ ~* DevilAngel ~ Yay ALL the Chanel goodies have arrived!!* Considering: Jumbo Flap, Camera Case, Valentine key charms, small Matelesse Lux in ? July 25, 2009

Jul 5th, 2009, 12:46 PM	#2
mmmsc monachus animadverto Joined: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,825	Don't do it, you won't be protected by PP alone. You need to go through ebay and pay with PP. Did you have it authenticated in the Chanel section here?? Or post the link and someone can help you maybe?

Jul 5th, 2009, 01:38 PM	#6
mmmsc monachus animadverto Joined: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,825	If he says he won't do it through Ebay, I would say forget it. Even if you DO do it through ebay, you don't know for sure...post the link? I too like above poster have never heard of PP holding the $$ until you receive the bag. I think that could be some sort of scam talk top convince you to do this.

Jul 5th, 2009, 09:44 PM	#10
misspiggy_07 Member Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 64	I am in a similar situation as you now. I am new to ebay and really wanna get this Chanel bag. I have been communicating to the seller (a reputable consignment store in HK with 100% positive feedback and a MPRS on ebay) via emails for the past few days. Just yesterday the seller has finally agree to my offer price and requested that should I decided to get the bag, they will only accept paypal echeques or bank transfer. Does this consider off ebay transaction? I have already told them I do not have any paypal account from the start. Also I have requested for pics to show the stains/use marks on the bag on 2 occassions, however the seller's reply is that the stains/use marks are so unnoticeable that it cannot be captured on pics. And reiterated that the bag is in Excellent condition. I have the bag authenticated at TPF too, right now I am still undecided to go ahead or not. Any advise from ebay gurus is much appreciated. TIA.
misspiggy_07 Member Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 64

Jul 5th, 2009, 11:14 PM	#12
misspiggy_07 Member Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 64	Thanks DemRam. Honestly, after reading some not so pleasant ebay encounters on this forum plus this is really my first time dealing with ebay seller, the answer to the questions is a resounding NO. Like what devilangel mentioned, although I am desperately in love with the bag.. but it's just not worth it taking the risk I guess.
misspiggy_07 Member Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 64

Jul 7th, 2009, 02:48 PM	#13
VeryIntoChanel Hermes Here I Come Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,011	No matter how much you want a purse, NEVER pay via bank wire. Never. I bank wired once to a seller in the US and i had sleepless nights. thank goodness the seller came through. Imagine the after thought of the seller bailing out on you? And you are out the cash and no bag?? Everyone thinks twice about lending money to people/ friends and you want to risk wiring money to someone you dont even know.... There are times i really want a bag so bad but when the seller mentioned only bank wire-the thought of owning the bag goes out the window. The fees incurred for Ebay and PP should be included in the seller's decision when he/ she priced the purse when listing. There really is no need for bank wire? Sorry this may sound disappointing... this is just my 2 cents.... However, i wish you luck in your new found love :)

Jul 7th, 2009, 03:56 PM	#15
Ellie Mae KIABCRS Joined: May 2008 Posts: 8,309	FOR MAXIMUM PROTECTION, use PP ONLY and ALWAYS pay w/ credit card. IMO, you need to set up a PP account and link it to a credit card (NOT a debit card or a bank account) HM... wonder if OP's Ebay/My Poup Seller is the SAME seller from HK as in this thread...?? Sounds familiar..... Help I think I've lost $1,300 and LV handbag
Ellie Mae KIABCRS Joined: May 2008 Posts: 8,309	__________________ *http://scams-n-shams.blogspot.com*

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