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mmmpurses! · Jul 3rd, 2008, 02:18 PM

LOL don't worry about it. Someone else will be intelligent enough to work on the info. I am worried that I am about to erase info in that laptop I believe may be stored there arghhh. I am gonna have to get on the phone with dell... or wait for my guru brother to look at it.

MissV · Jul 3rd, 2008, 02:21 PM

I happened to stumble across this thread and on to page 9 and i musy say .....this is so f*cked up....wow...I've never bought from ebay and I HATE PAYPAL. I only use it when neccesary!

2girls_closet · Jul 3rd, 2008, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by mikscloset

Just curious, has anyone ever been asked to return a fake bag back to paypal if there was also damage to it? Like say you received a fake that had a broken zipper or something and your claim stated it was both fake and damaged. I'm just wondering if they ask those be sent to them or if they are only asking for the ones that they can easily resell.

Yes. I bought a Kathy V bag in May. It was a total fake. It also had significant damage to the interior. Contacted seller. She lives in TX. She would not refund. Opened dispute. Called paypal. Had the proof that it was a fake and also damaged. They didn't ask for it. Told me to send it to seller. I refused since it was illegal. Told them that I would destroy it myself. They had no problem with that.

jemi · Jul 3rd, 2008, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Hippiechick1969

Yes, Good Ole Ina...
Been sendin things her way, for the past month and a half. Some of the info that my buddy Ric and I have been sending into her, has been used in her blogs.

She didn't post much yesterday and I was hopin that was because she was travelin to dallas.

Pardon me? Just who is busted?

jemi · Jul 3rd, 2008, 03:40 PM

...oops, see it now.

chloebagfreak · Jul 3rd, 2008, 03:49 PM

Wow...Wow...I stayed up til 3:00 am last night reading this whole thread. I am so blown away, yet not surprised. I really hope someone does something in the media. If no newspapers are interested, it just means they are scared or intimidated. It's kinda like attacking the drug companies and exposing their evil ways. Like the Prempro lawsuit and the millions that they will have to pay for killing women and putting them at risk for cancer. It's still on the shelves....

Bravo TPF LADIES for investigating this. If I was a reporter I'd take the story!
Basically, as I see it, Ebay/Paypal is using people to basically launder Money!

Coach Bag · Jul 3rd, 2008, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by pegasuscom

Given all the litigation, do you not find it incredibly arrogant that they would even attempt such a scam? Most people involved in court battles tend to stay away from trouble instead of compounding their problems. Call the public relations department of LVMH...

eBay + PayPal = "incredibly arrogant"

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 4th, 2008, 07:57 PM

Here's Ina's blog, if anyone wants to read it:

http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin....html#comments

izitso · Jul 5th, 2008, 12:34 AM

ebay + paypal = criminal

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 5th, 2008, 09:36 AM

New article here. I sent the big long email, in this blog (Which shows what I found), to the editor of that blog/article. Told them that ebay IS the source of some of these fakes.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com:80/se.../Entertainment

stylefly · Jul 5th, 2008, 10:17 AM

Hippiechick1969- you are simply amazing! What a fantastic addition to the forum you are already!
There was an article about counterfeits in the Toronto Star yesterday. They are really good about looking into things like this a lot of the time and I am going to forward this thread to the author of the article.
I think that DailyCrimeReport or whatever it was probably doesn't have any interest because he doesn't even understand why fakes are bad. Put him in a sweatshop or take his kids to sew fake bags for a few days and he'd come around, but for now I think a lot of people still see fake bags as victimless crimes.

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 5th, 2008, 11:35 AM

I also mailed my long post to about 4 dallas newspapers and a few Dallas news channels. Not to mention the Dallas Sherrifs office and The Dallas Police Department.

Since ebay is appealing the LV law suit, I also mailed it to them and have gotten several emails back, thanking me for the info:

"We share your concern regarding the sale of counterfeit and replica
Louis Vuitton merchandise. Therefore, your message has been transmitted
to the Louis Vuitton Intellectual Property Department. We have an
anticounterfeiting coordinator in each country who deals with such
potential forgery. We thank you for your conscientious efforts to assist
Louis Vuitton in this matter."

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 7th, 2008, 01:45 AM

Bump

mjlover1977 · Jul 7th, 2008, 02:39 AM

wow. wow. wow. how can this be?

Hippiechick1969 · Jul 7th, 2008, 03:19 AM

Liquidity Services Inc. and N.E.W. Customer Service Companies, Inc. have a partnership. NEW recovers an increased revenue stream on the resale of returned merchandise through its partnership with Liquidity Services, Inc. (LSI).

NEW says "Not only does LSI provide us with a quick and easy way for our customers to send in merchandise and receive remittance checks, but the company uses its expertise in the secondary market to resell returned and damaged items for the highest market value."

LSI provides the following services (Notice it says nothing about authentification or destruction)

Pre-paid return mailing label generation and delivery to customer
Receipt and processing of return packages
Online resale of merchandise including marketing, inventory lotting, manifest creation, photographing and creation of online auctions on LSI’s marketplace, www.Liquidation.com
Real-time and transparent reporting throughout entire process

Once packages arrive at the warehouse, LSI begins a comprehensive process to merchandise and resell the returned inventory
through its online auction marketplace. The end-to-end management of this process includes:

ONCE AGAIN, NOTHING ABOUT AUTHENTICATION OR DESTRUCTION

Reconciliation of returned items
Creation of product manifests
Evaluation and lotting of items into size/categories to generate highest return
Photographing of items for display on auction site
Creation and launch of online auction events on LSI’s marketplace, Liquidation.com
Implementation of marketing campaigns to support current auctions
Assisting with buyer questions, shipping information and logistics, and payment collection
Complete and transparent tracking information for each item/ lot sold

See the full page here:

http://www.liquidityservicesinc.com/new_casestudy.pdf

Jul 3rd, 2008, 02:18 PM	#151
mmmpurses! "Will Be Back" Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,727	LOL don't worry about it. Someone else will be intelligent enough to work on the info. I am worried that I am about to erase info in that laptop I believe may be stored there arghhh. I am gonna have to get on the phone with dell... or wait for my guru brother to look at it.
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Jul 3rd, 2008, 02:21 PM	#152
MissV Member Joined: Feb 2006 Location: somewhere fabulous Posts: 3,697	I happened to stumble across this thread and on to page 9 and i musy say .....this is so f*cked up....wow...I've never bought from ebay and I HATE PAYPAL. I only use it when neccesary!
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Jul 3rd, 2008, 03:49 PM	#156
chloebagfreak Balenciaga Freak now Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Gorgeous California! Posts: 1,295	Wow...Wow...I stayed up til 3:00 am last night reading this whole thread. I am so blown away, yet not surprised. I really hope someone does something in the media. If no newspapers are interested, it just means they are scared or intimidated. It's kinda like attacking the drug companies and exposing their evil ways. Like the Prempro lawsuit and the millions that they will have to pay for killing women and putting them at risk for cancer. It's still on the shelves.... Bravo TPF LADIES for investigating this. If I was a reporter I'd take the story! Basically, as I see it, Ebay/Paypal is using people to basically launder Money!
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Jul 4th, 2008, 07:57 PM	#158
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	Here's Ina's blog, if anyone wants to read it: http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin....html#comments
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91

Jul 5th, 2008, 12:34 AM	#159
izitso Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 75	ebay + paypal = criminal
izitso Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 75

Jul 3rd, 2008, 03:40 PM	#155
jemi Member Joined: Mar 2008 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 294	...oops, see it now.

Jul 5th, 2008, 09:36 AM	#160
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	New article here. I sent the big long email, in this blog (Which shows what I found), to the editor of that blog/article. Told them that ebay IS the source of some of these fakes. http://www.theglobeandmail.com:80/se.../Entertainment
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91

Jul 5th, 2008, 10:17 AM	#161
stylefly Shopportunist Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Eh Posts: 4,111	Hippiechick1969- you are simply amazing! What a fantastic addition to the forum you are already! There was an article about counterfeits in the Toronto Star yesterday. They are really good about looking into things like this a lot of the time and I am going to forward this thread to the author of the article. I think that DailyCrimeReport or whatever it was probably doesn't have any interest because he doesn't even understand why fakes are bad. Put him in a sweatshop or take his kids to sew fake bags for a few days and he'd come around, but for now I think a lot of people still see fake bags as victimless crimes.
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Jul 5th, 2008, 11:35 AM	#162
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	I also mailed my long post to about 4 dallas newspapers and a few Dallas news channels. Not to mention the Dallas Sherrifs office and The Dallas Police Department. Since ebay is appealing the LV law suit, I also mailed it to them and have gotten several emails back, thanking me for the info: "We share your concern regarding the sale of counterfeit and replica Louis Vuitton merchandise. Therefore, your message has been transmitted to the Louis Vuitton Intellectual Property Department. We have an anticounterfeiting coordinator in each country who deals with such potential forgery. We thank you for your conscientious efforts to assist Louis Vuitton in this matter."
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91

Jul 7th, 2008, 01:45 AM	#163
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	Bump
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Jul 7th, 2008, 02:39 AM	#164
mjlover1977 weddings=SO MUCH $$! Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,875	wow. wow. wow. how can this be?
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Jul 7th, 2008, 03:19 AM	#165
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	Found this on liquidity Services Website Liquidity Services Inc. and N.E.W. Customer Service Companies, Inc. have a partnership. NEW recovers an increased revenue stream on the resale of returned merchandise through its partnership with Liquidity Services, Inc. (LSI). NEW says "Not only does LSI provide us with a quick and easy way for our customers to send in merchandise and receive remittance checks, but the company uses its expertise in the secondary market to resell returned and damaged items for the highest market value." LSI provides the following services (Notice it says nothing about authentification or destruction) Pre-paid return mailing label generation and delivery to customer Receipt and processing of return packages Online resale of merchandise including marketing, inventory lotting, manifest creation, photographing and creation of online auctions on LSI’s marketplace, www.Liquidation.com Real-time and transparent reporting throughout entire process Once packages arrive at the warehouse, LSI begins a comprehensive process to merchandise and resell the returned inventory through its online auction marketplace. The end-to-end management of this process includes: ONCE AGAIN, NOTHING ABOUT AUTHENTICATION OR DESTRUCTION Reconciliation of returned items Creation of product manifests Evaluation and lotting of items into size/categories to generate highest return Photographing of items for display on auction site Creation and launch of online auction events on LSI’s marketplace, Liquidation.com Implementation of marketing campaigns to support current auctions Assisting with buyer questions, shipping information and logistics, and payment collection Complete and transparent tracking information for each item/ lot sold See the full page here: http://www.liquidityservicesinc.com/new_casestudy.pdf
Hippiechick1969 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 91	Last edited by Hippiechick1969; Jul 7th, 2008 at 03:22 AM.

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