Handbag ONLY auction site - Page 3

Belladiva79 · Jul 10th, 2008, 09:43 AM

I too have been thinking about doing this! One thing has stopped me though, how would I avoid getting sued from companies like LV and Dior, in other words how do you get rid of the fakes?? eBay is a billion dollar site and they have had such a hard time that I'm scared to think how challenging it could be! Regards to the $25 cost I think that is a bit expensive. I was actually thinking of making a membership only site where you have to pay a monthly fee. Not sure the exact amount but at the point it seems more reasonable than paying so much money on ebay.

Amberini · Jul 10th, 2008, 10:02 AM

I think $25 a month sounds more realistic than $25 listing

It's not too steep on a monthly basis and yet it's expensive enough to keep scammers at bay...

mollixx · Jul 10th, 2008, 11:12 AM

Hi, I'm new here. Reading this posting with great interest.

Apologies if anyone has mentioned this - but I wanted to point out this site - http://www.handbagwhores.com

It's for new, and used selling.

gro3602 · Jul 10th, 2008, 11:25 AM

Below is a valid point.

Just throwing some ideas out:

All listings must be authenticated on tpf first.
All sellers must be id verified.
All photos must show clear close up photos of tags front and back, hardware, etc.
NO STOCK PHOTOS allowed.

All photos must be watermarked w/ id name.

Membership fee? To weed out scammers.
High fee to be credited after selling so many bags, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belladiva79

I too have been thinking about doing this! One thing has stopped me though, how would I avoid getting sued from companies like LV and Dior, in other words how do you get rid of the fakes?? eBay is a billion dollar site and they have had such a hard time that I'm scared to think how challenging it could be! Regards to the $25 cost I think that is a bit expensive. I was actually thinking of making a membership only site where you have to pay a monthly fee. Not sure the exact amount but at the point it seems more reasonable than paying so much money on ebay.

gro3602 · Jul 10th, 2008, 11:26 AM

Is this a search site?

Most of the links take you right to eBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollixx

Hi, I'm new here. Reading this posting with great interest.

Apologies if anyone has mentioned this - but I wanted to point out this site - http://www.handbagwhores.com

It's for new, and used selling.

rollergirl · Jul 10th, 2008, 11:29 AM

This is a great idea a long time in coming, though I've heard evilbay frustrated people talk about it since as early as 2005. The more you think about it, the more work you realize it would be, so I wish you luck! As a buyer, who you would want to frequent your site and buy the products, the critical selling point to me, that would be SOOOO different from eBay, would be authenticity. At some point, someone has to take responsibility for insuring it, unless you are to turn into a "mere conduit," in the immortal words of e***. Even if it were a royal PIA to sellers at first, it would have to be very stringent from the outset. It's a huge liability, I know, but essential.

mollixx · Jul 10th, 2008, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gro3602

Is this a search site?

Most of the links take you right to eBay

Maybe it is, my bad if so. I didn't click on any of the links, I just did a quick google search to see if I could find a purse-only auction site.

mar1an1 · Jul 10th, 2008, 12:13 PM

Guys, this is a very good idea. Thanks for starting it.

Maybe I must have missed it, but don't you want to rate the tpf members too? There should be like a feedback or rating for those who authenticate the items going to be posted for sale. I.E: A, B, C authenticates a Chanel bag. If the seller agrees with the outcome and has records to support it the outcome, then depending on the result the bag will either be posted or not. Successful posting on the site (not successful selling) will give the seller an opportunity to add positive feedback to A, B and C.

For the authenticator, there should be different levels set up (junior=new member, authenticator, senior authenticator). When junior authenticator receives certain number of feedback, they should be able to move up. Authenticators cannot authenticate their own items to be posted for sale. And there should be restriction on authenticators authenticate each other items. Confuse enough?

Just a point of view from a potential buyer...

I need to be able to trust the authenticator.

I dislike eBay and paypal too. I rarely sell stuff on ebay, except for the time when dear husband forces me to clean out my closet... I recently found brand new Juicy couture, Coach bags, Prada shoes that I have bought a long time ago but never got around to wear them. It's like finding treasures

Some of them I need to sell, but I don't want to deal with eBay and Paypal.

I'm in the IT industry and will be more than happy to help out. Please let me know if you guys need to reach out to me.

Though I'm new, I'm not a part of eBay, have no ulterior motive other than researching for my next dream bag.

cgsunbabe · Jul 10th, 2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gro3602

Below is a valid point.

Just throwing some ideas out:

All listings must be authenticated on tpf first.
All sellers must be id verified.
All photos must show clear close up photos of tags front and back, hardware, etc.
NO STOCK PHOTOS allowed.

All photos must be watermarked w/ id name.

Membership fee? To weed out scammers.
High fee to be credited after selling so many bags, etc.

This is VERY similar to what I am thinking. There has to be a fee up front. The scammers won't pay money up front. Honest people will. As a long time seller and buyer I know that people are willing to pay an extra few dollars to KNOW that the items are authentic.

If the site is dirt cheap than what deters people from coming to make a quick buck? As stated in my other posts all items would be authenticated PRIOR to listing via a forum of sorts. Scammers are GREAT at finding ways around things (buy 1 real Vuitton speedy, buy 8 fakes...use the code to list multiples). Even the best computer programs are easily fooled.

Here are my thoughts on the $20 listing fee (including relist the item and modify as MANY times as you wish on that item). Yes the fee seems high, but I promise if you think about it makes sense. Scammers will not pay money for bags that they know are fake. Buyers will send a little extra if they trust that the site ONLY carries the real deal- SELLERS you will make the money back if your customers feel safe buying.

I can see areas for discounted fees. The site MUST be member moderated. If you are an "expert" in a certain brand, sign up as a authenticator. Authenticators will recieve points that reduce the fees owed.

The site needs to be a site that can stand up against Vuitton and other designers. That means EVERYTHING must be authentic. We must weed out the scammers. There would be an automatic probation for ALL new account for the first 3-5 items bought and sold. There will NOT be a million policies that don't make sense. There will be a few rules, if you don't follow them you are banned.

In addition we need a way to verify ALL members, any ideas?

This keeps us safe. Can we please chat about something other than fees (I promise that we will figure that out fairly). What features are important? What features do you love about eBay? What features do you hate?

Amberini · Jul 10th, 2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mar1an1

I'm in the IT industry and will be more than happy to help out. Please let me know if you guys need to reach out to me.

Though I'm new, I'm not a part of eBay, have no ulterior motive other than researching for my next dream bag.

Me too, I'm a semi-pro web designer. Does that count??

cgsunbabe · Jul 10th, 2008, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mar1an1

Guys, this is a very good idea. Thanks for starting it.

Maybe I must have missed it, but don't you want to rate the tpf members too? There should be like a feedback or rating for those who authenticate the items going to be posted for sale. I.E: A, B, C authenticates a Chanel bag. If the seller agrees with the outcome and has records to support it the outcome, then depending on the result the bag will either be posted or not. Successful posting on the site (not successful selling) will give the seller an opportunity to add positive feedback to A, B and C.

For the authenticator, there should be different levels set up (junior=new member, authenticator, senior authenticator). When junior authenticator receives certain number of feedback, they should be able to move up. Authenticators cannot authenticate their own items to be posted for sale. And there should be restriction on authenticators authenticate each other items. Confuse enough?

Just a point of view from a potential buyer...

I need to be able to trust the authenticator.

I dislike eBay and paypal too. I rarely sell stuff on ebay, except for the time when dear husband forces me to clean out my closet... I recently found brand new Juicy couture, Coach bags, Prada shoes that I have bought a long time ago but never got around to wear them. It's like finding treasures

Some of them I need to sell, but I don't want to deal with eBay and Paypal.

I'm in the IT industry and will be more than happy to help out. Please let me know if you guys need to reach out to me.

Though I'm new, I'm not a part of eBay, have no ulterior motive other than researching for my next dream bag.

LOVE the idea about different levels for the authenticators. I was wondering about that myself.

Thank you for offering help. I am working with a guy that builds auction sites only. I do have a few questions I may shoot past you. Thanks again

mar1an1 · Jul 10th, 2008, 12:50 PM

cgsunbabe, understand.
Just my 2 cents (and really don't want to sound too geeky/nerdy):
There are many moving pieces to make this auction site working properly. And you want to ensure that performance will be top speed. And for performance to be top speed, those moving parts will all need to be "checked out and lubricated". I.e: what database that he's planning to use?

Let me know when it's up and ready for testing

cgsunbabe · Jul 10th, 2008, 01:52 PM

Okay, I need some help. I just received the another from the web designer. He asked a question and I was hoping for imput. Below-

With regards to the general running we would need to make changes to the categories, could you provide me a rough idea of how many categories you require; will you be listing the items by designer with sub categories for the different type of accessories?

Any ideas? I would say that the authentication forums would need to have catagories for all the major brands, as well as catagories for designers that are less known and vintage items as well.

The auction portion could mimic the forums, with built in flexability for adding styles- clutches, totes, ect.

Ideas???

Thanks guys

polina-design · Jul 10th, 2008, 03:14 PM

it can be all major designers in a Handbags category

Balenciaga
Bottega Veneta
Burberry
Chloe
Christian Louboutin
Cole Haan
Dior
Dolce & Gabbana
Donna Karan
Fendi
Giorgio Armani
Gucci
Hogan
Hermes
Jimmy Choo
Juicy Couture
Marc Jacobs
Michael Kors
Miu Miu
Prada
Roberto Cavalli (Just Cavalli)
Salvatore Ferragamo
Stella McCartney
Tod's
Valentino
Versace
Yves Saint Laurent
OTHER Designers

about accessories and shoes we can vote here....

some ideas:
1. it can be good to have rating system (like amazon.com)
for ex.: I bought Gucci Indy bag and it so uncomfortable to wear on shoulder I wish somebody could tell me that Before i bought it:)
2. to have own authenticate forum because here the section "authenticate this" is already full.
3. to have professional service for authentication some Hermes and Chanel bags when pictures does not help much and we need to send product for professional opinion. (MP it's so slow and CarolDiva can authenticate LV, Db and Coach)
4. to have confirmed account for sellers/buyers (connect account to bank to avoid any scam)
5. to have antihacked system to avoid scam of whole site
6. detailed feedback rating (to leave more space for description) also we can add stars (gold, silver, bronze)

some more ideas?????

mar1an1 · Jul 10th, 2008, 03:23 PM

This is what I think:
Divide the designers into 2 categories: Designers and Premium Designers
Under Designers and Premium Designers, divide it into: Vintage/Classic, Current
Further divide into: Hanbags/Totes, Clutches, Wallet, Accessories, etc

I'm thinking that step 2 regarding vintage/classic or current is an extra step. But maybe others have different opinion.

Jul 10th, 2008, 10:02 AM	#32
Amberini Member Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Nottinghamshire, UK Posts: 554	I think $25 a month sounds more realistic than $25 listing It's not too steep on a monthly basis and yet it's expensive enough to keep scammers at bay... __________________ Well, at least he's taking care of things...

Jul 10th, 2008, 03:14 PM	#44
polina-design Member Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 86	it can be all major designers in a Handbags category Balenciaga Bottega Veneta Burberry Chloe Christian Louboutin Cole Haan Dior Dolce & Gabbana Donna Karan Fendi Giorgio Armani Gucci Hogan Hermes Jimmy Choo Juicy Couture Marc Jacobs Michael Kors Miu Miu Prada Roberto Cavalli (Just Cavalli) Salvatore Ferragamo Stella McCartney Tod's Valentino Versace Yves Saint Laurent OTHER Designers about accessories and shoes we can vote here.... some ideas: 1. it can be good to have rating system (like amazon.com) for ex.: I bought Gucci Indy bag and it so uncomfortable to wear on shoulder I wish somebody could tell me that Before i bought it:) 2. to have own authenticate forum because here the section "authenticate this" is already full. 3. to have professional service for authentication some Hermes and Chanel bags when pictures does not help much and we need to send product for professional opinion. (MP it's so slow and CarolDiva can authenticate LV, Db and Coach) 4. to have confirmed account for sellers/buyers (connect account to bank to avoid any scam) 5. to have antihacked system to avoid scam of whole site 6. detailed feedback rating (to leave more space for description) also we can add stars (gold, silver, bronze) some more ideas????? __________________ ~ Dear, shopping again???....but you have so many bags... ...Ya? but the store has much more ~ p.s: I my hubby

Jul 10th, 2008, 09:43 AM	#31
Belladiva79 Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 249	I too have been thinking about doing this! One thing has stopped me though, how would I avoid getting sued from companies like LV and Dior, in other words how do you get rid of the fakes?? eBay is a billion dollar site and they have had such a hard time that I'm scared to think how challenging it could be! Regards to the $25 cost I think that is a bit expensive. I was actually thinking of making a membership only site where you have to pay a monthly fee. Not sure the exact amount but at the point it seems more reasonable than paying so much money on ebay.

Jul 10th, 2008, 11:12 AM	#33
mollixx Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 6	Hi, I'm new here. Reading this posting with great interest. Apologies if anyone has mentioned this - but I wanted to point out this site - http://www.handbagwhores.com It's for new, and used selling.

Jul 10th, 2008, 11:29 AM	#36
rollergirl Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,710	This is a great idea a long time in coming, though I've heard evilbay frustrated people talk about it since as early as 2005. The more you think about it, the more work you realize it would be, so I wish you luck! As a buyer, who you would want to frequent your site and buy the products, the critical selling point to me, that would be SOOOO different from eBay, would be authenticity. At some point, someone has to take responsibility for insuring it, unless you are to turn into a "mere conduit," in the immortal words of e***. Even if it were a royal PIA to sellers at first, it would have to be very stringent from the outset. It's a huge liability, I know, but essential.

Jul 10th, 2008, 12:13 PM	#38
mar1an1 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 19	Guys, this is a very good idea. Thanks for starting it. Maybe I must have missed it, but don't you want to rate the tpf members too? There should be like a feedback or rating for those who authenticate the items going to be posted for sale. I.E: A, B, C authenticates a Chanel bag. If the seller agrees with the outcome and has records to support it the outcome, then depending on the result the bag will either be posted or not. Successful posting on the site (not successful selling) will give the seller an opportunity to add positive feedback to A, B and C. For the authenticator, there should be different levels set up (junior=new member, authenticator, senior authenticator). When junior authenticator receives certain number of feedback, they should be able to move up. Authenticators cannot authenticate their own items to be posted for sale. And there should be restriction on authenticators authenticate each other items. Confuse enough? Just a point of view from a potential buyer... I need to be able to trust the authenticator. I dislike eBay and paypal too. I rarely sell stuff on ebay, except for the time when dear husband forces me to clean out my closet... I recently found brand new Juicy couture, Coach bags, Prada shoes that I have bought a long time ago but never got around to wear them. It's like finding treasures Some of them I need to sell, but I don't want to deal with eBay and Paypal. I'm in the IT industry and will be more than happy to help out. Please let me know if you guys need to reach out to me. Though I'm new, I'm not a part of eBay, have no ulterior motive other than researching for my next dream bag.

Jul 10th, 2008, 12:50 PM	#42
mar1an1 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 19	cgsunbabe, understand. Just my 2 cents (and really don't want to sound too geeky/nerdy): There are many moving pieces to make this auction site working properly. And you want to ensure that performance will be top speed. And for performance to be top speed, those moving parts will all need to be "checked out and lubricated". I.e: what database that he's planning to use? Let me know when it's up and ready for testing

Jul 10th, 2008, 01:52 PM	#43
cgsunbabe Member Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 63	Okay, I need some help. I just received the another from the web designer. He asked a question and I was hoping for imput. Below- With regards to the general running we would need to make changes to the categories, could you provide me a rough idea of how many categories you require; will you be listing the items by designer with sub categories for the different type of accessories? Any ideas? I would say that the authentication forums would need to have catagories for all the major brands, as well as catagories for designers that are less known and vintage items as well. The auction portion could mimic the forums, with built in flexability for adding styles- clutches, totes, ect. Ideas??? Thanks guys

Jul 10th, 2008, 03:23 PM	#45
mar1an1 Member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 19	This is what I think: Divide the designers into 2 categories: Designers and Premium Designers Under Designers and Premium Designers, divide it into: Vintage/Classic, Current Further divide into: Hanbags/Totes, Clutches, Wallet, Accessories, etc I'm thinking that step 2 regarding vintage/classic or current is an extra step. But maybe others have different opinion.