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Ellie Mae · Nov 19th, 2009, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by MOWCAM

Will certainly do.
And - take a trans atlantic cruiseliner, i think you can bring dogs on those.
Or; soon i can probable contribute about 750 Australian dollars towards a louis vuitton sac chien!!!!

LOL, I am a BAL girl, myself. But, you do need to continue your quest for your bag. You'll find it... just be way more cautious. Search the seller via google, and the PF search. Authenticate first. Check toolhaus, check goofbay. AND, check the LV forum for recommended sellers if an LV is what you are after. And check MALLERIES, many nice sellers there w/ LV. There are MANY nice ladies on the LV forum who will advise. And you can also ask about Ebay sellers here on the ebay forum.
You'll be fine. You've learned alot in a very short time!

Somehow I don't see myself on a cruise ship w/ these hunting dogs. We'd likely get tossed off in the middle of the ocean!

MOWCAM · Nov 19th, 2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ellie Mae

LOL, I am a BAL girl, myself. But, you do need to continue your quest for your bag. You'll find it... just be way more cautious. Search the seller via google, and the PF search. Authenticate first. Check toolhaus, check goofbay. AND, check the LV forum for recommended sellers if an LV is what you are after. And check MALLERIES, many nice sellers there w/ LV. There are MANY nice ladies on the LV forum who will advise. And you can also ask about Ebay sellers here on the ebay forum.
You'll be fine. You've learned alot in a very short time!

Somehow I don't see myself on a cruise ship w/ these hunting dogs. We'd likely get tossed off in the middle of the ocean!

Hahaha, that won't work, youre right... no sac chiens in that size anyways!

Ellie Mae · Nov 19th, 2009, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by MOWCAM

Hahaha, that won't work, youre right... no sac chiens in that size anyways!

Not only that, I have a feeling DH's hunting buddies might have something to say if these dogs turned up in the field donned in LV accessories!

I need to give that some thought actually.... I owe him one.

karmenzsofia · Nov 19th, 2009, 05:42 PM

OP: I'm so glad you caught on to what the seller was trying to do and did what you had to do to protect/defend yourself.

I just wanted to let you and the others know--for future reference/transactions--that most of the info (unfortunately not all, so we can still help you here) you need to handle these situations is provided by the eBay and PP websites, and I strongly recommend to anyone considering buying and/or selling on eBay to familiarize themselves with this info prior to making transactions. You will be more clear about what you're getting into and know what to do in these situations, which should significantly lower the stress level.

I also think it's a good idea to stick around and read about other transactions to find out a little bit more about what usually works, what doesn't work, how to improve your chances at successful transactions, how to avoid scammers, and what you can and can't control. You can learn sooo much from other people's experiences.

Before you buy from anyone, take a look at the seller's feedback on www.toolhaus.org or the goofbay website. I prefer toolhaus; it's quicker. Look at the feedback the seller has received as well as the feedback she/he's left for others. If there are any red flags, you can do further research into the items and other eBayers involved in these sales. Also google the seller's ID to see if there's any useful info out there. Don't buy from sellers who fail or neglect to describe and show their items in detail, unless the sellers provide additional info and photos upon request. Avoid anything vague or shady. Depending on how the seller responds, and all the other info you will have compiled by now, you can decide whether or not to do business with that person.

It sucks that we have to be so vigilant, that there are so many liars and thieves out there, and that even after taking every precaution, we could still end up being victimized by a scammer. It's terrible, but for now at least, it is what it is.

I wish you better luck next time!

ijen0311 · Nov 19th, 2009, 08:09 PM

reported!

flowerbobon · Nov 19th, 2009, 09:53 PM

glad everything's settled

MOWCAM · Nov 19th, 2009, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by karmenzsofia

OP: I'm so glad you caught on to what the seller was trying to do and did what you had to do to protect/defend yourself.

I just wanted to let you and the others know--for future reference/transactions--that most of the info (unfortunately not all, so we can still help you here) you need to handle these situations is provided by the eBay and PP websites, and I strongly recommend to anyone considering buying and/or selling on eBay to familiarize themselves with this info prior to making transactions. You will be more clear about what you're getting into and know what to do in these situations, which should significantly lower the stress level.

I also think it's a good idea to stick around and read about other transactions to find out a little bit more about what usually works, what doesn't work, how to improve your chances at successful transactions, how to avoid scammers, and what you can and can't control. You can learn sooo much from other people's experiences.

Before you buy from anyone, take a look at the seller's feedback on www.toolhaus.org or the goofbay website. I prefer toolhaus; it's quicker. Look at the feedback the seller has received as well as the feedback she/he's left for others. If there are any red flags, you can do further research into the items and other eBayers involved in these sales. Also google the seller's ID to see if there's any useful info out there. Don't buy from sellers who fail or neglect to describe and show their items in detail, unless the sellers provide additional info and photos upon request. Avoid anything vague or shady. Depending on how the seller responds, and all the other info you will have compiled by now, you can decide whether or not to do business with that person.

It sucks that we have to be so vigilant, that there are so many liars and thieves out there, and that even after taking every precaution, we could still end up being victimized by a scammer. It's terrible, but for now at least, it is what it is.

I wish you better luck next time!

Lesson learned on my part at least!

It just saddens me that this is the reality of things.
What's wrong with a good , fair, honest deal, you know? Anyone can make a mistake, but when its planned and intentional - how do these people justify it?

That i will never understand.

Ellie Mae · Nov 19th, 2009, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by ijen0311

reported!

Thank You, Jen. Ebay AUS is TOUGH. They do not respond well to reporting. And ALL HELP is appreciated!

pukasonqo · Nov 20th, 2009, 12:02 AM

reported. let's hope they take this one down.

Ellie Mae · Nov 20th, 2009, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by pukasonqo

reported. let's hope they take this one down.

Thank You Puka.. Ebay Au is the most difficult that I have encountered.

karmenzsofia · Nov 20th, 2009, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by MOWCAM

Lesson learned on my part at least!

It just saddens me that this is the reality of things. [Me too! It sucks!]
What's wrong with a good , fair, honest deal, you know? Anyone can make a mistake, but when its planned and intentional - how do these people justify it? [They don't have to justify it. They see a way to profit, to steal from others, and they don't give a second thought to the damage they do. They don't care. They lack integrity and couldn't put themselves in the shoes of those they scam even if they tried...]

That i will never understand.

There better be a special place in hell for these people...if hell exists...

MOWCAM · Nov 20th, 2009, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by karmenzsofia

There better be a special place in hell for these people...if hell exists...

Hope so too.
Somewhere for this type of offense you have to carry your stuff around in a plastic bag, you don't even get to use your own fakes!

And - thanks for reporting everyone!!!

Ellie Mae · Nov 20th, 2009, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by MOWCAM

Hope so too.
Somewhere for this type of offense you have to carry your stuff around in a plastic bag, you don't even get to use your own fakes!

And - thanks for reporting everyone!!!

LOL.. and in case there is NOT, then we want to do what we can here on earth to make scammers as miserable as possible in the meantime!

MOWCAM · Nov 20th, 2009, 02:56 AM

This notice from Ebay was now in my inbox:

Hello xxx,

Please be aware that the following listing:

280422298315 - Brand New Authentic Gucci™ Indy Black Handbag

has been removed by eBay for violating of one or more of our policies. Any offers or bids placed on this listing are now null and void. Because the auction was ended, you as a bidder are not required to complete the transaction.

For information about eBay's listing policies and user agreement go to:

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/policies.html
http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/user-agreement.html

We're sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

Regards,

eBay Trust & Safety

H53882

Thats a good thing - too bad I already paid!

How do i get my money back now that the listing has been removed?
Will ebay see to it that it happends, or will i have to trust the seller to do something actively for my refund, does anyone know?

Ellie Mae · Nov 20th, 2009, 08:08 AM

You should be fine, should not make any difference. IMO, if anything, this helps your case and further proves her fraud.

I'm glad to see they removed all the completed listings. Now she has no past sales of the gucci indy!!

If you have any concerns, just call Ebay. You did ACCEPT her refund offer yesterday...??

Nov 19th, 2009, 05:42 PM	#49
karmenzsofia Member Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 15,923	OP: I'm so glad you caught on to what the seller was trying to do and did what you had to do to protect/defend yourself. I just wanted to let you and the others know--for future reference/transactions--that most of the info (unfortunately not all, so we can still help you here) you need to handle these situations is provided by the eBay and PP websites, and I strongly recommend to anyone considering buying and/or selling on eBay to familiarize themselves with this info prior to making transactions. You will be more clear about what you're getting into and know what to do in these situations, which should significantly lower the stress level. I also think it's a good idea to stick around and read about other transactions to find out a little bit more about what usually works, what doesn't work, how to improve your chances at successful transactions, how to avoid scammers, and what you can and can't control. You can learn sooo much from other people's experiences. Before you buy from anyone, take a look at the seller's feedback on www.toolhaus.org or the goofbay website. I prefer toolhaus; it's quicker. Look at the feedback the seller has received as well as the feedback she/he's left for others. If there are any red flags, you can do further research into the items and other eBayers involved in these sales. Also google the seller's ID to see if there's any useful info out there. Don't buy from sellers who fail or neglect to describe and show their items in detail, unless the sellers provide additional info and photos upon request. Avoid anything vague or shady. Depending on how the seller responds, and all the other info you will have compiled by now, you can decide whether or not to do business with that person. It sucks that we have to be so vigilant, that there are so many liars and thieves out there, and that even after taking every precaution, we could still end up being victimized by a scammer. It's terrible, but for now at least, it is what it is. I wish you better luck next time!
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Nov 19th, 2009, 08:09 PM	#50
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Nov 19th, 2009, 09:53 PM	#51
flowerbobon pisang panas!!! Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,339	glad everything's settled
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Nov 20th, 2009, 12:02 AM	#54
pukasonqo goddess of suburbia Joined: Dec 2006 Location: 0z Posts: 3,789	reported. let's hope they take this one down.
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Nov 20th, 2009, 02:56 AM	#59
MOWCAM OP Member Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,095	Remomved listing This notice from Ebay was now in my inbox: Hello xxx, Please be aware that the following listing: 280422298315 - Brand New Authentic Gucci™ Indy Black Handbag has been removed by eBay for violating of one or more of our policies. Any offers or bids placed on this listing are now null and void. Because the auction was ended, you as a bidder are not required to complete the transaction. For information about eBay's listing policies and user agreement go to: http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/policies.html http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/user-agreement.html We're sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. Regards, eBay Trust & Safety H53882 Thats a good thing - too bad I already paid! How do i get my money back now that the listing has been removed? Will ebay see to it that it happends, or will i have to trust the seller to do something actively for my refund, does anyone know?
	Last edited by Swanky Mama Of Three; Nov 20th, 2009 at 08:13 AM.

Nov 20th, 2009, 08:08 AM	#60
Ellie Mae Just call me YODA ;) Joined: May 2008 Posts: 10,863	You should be fine, should not make any difference. IMO, if anything, this helps your case and further proves her fraud. I'm glad to see they removed all the completed listings. Now she has no past sales of the gucci indy!! If you have any concerns, just call Ebay. You did ACCEPT her refund offer yesterday...??
	__________________ If I knew who you were, and where you were at, if I were to pass you on the street, I would give you an impromptu high five. Last edited by Ellie Mae; Nov 20th, 2009 at 08:19 AM.

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