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tandi78 · Jul 2nd, 2009, 11:40 AM

There is a bag that I REALLY want that was listed on ebay. I put in a "best offer" that the seller refused (she wanted more than $100 over the retail price for it). The listing ended without a buyer. I emailed her asking if she was going to relist it and I offered a price in the middle. She said that she would relist the bag....but then sent me a "bill" directly from paypal for the bag. She did that without relisting it on ebay. I emailed her again saying that I wanted the protection from ebay....she wrote back that all paypal transactions were protected......
Does this sound right? Should I buy the bag outside of ebay?

cookie888 · Jul 2nd, 2009, 12:39 PM

She sounds dodgy - I advise buying it through ebay. I don't think Paypal protects you if you decide to outside of ebay.

mmmsc · Jul 2nd, 2009, 01:22 PM

You will be protected only if item is not delivered if you use PP alone. You need to go through ebay and pay with PP to be protected in case you want to file a SNAD or something..
How is her feedback? If it is someone that looks trustworthy and has great FB for selling bags like yours, you might consider buying it, but it's a roll of the dice these days to do off-ebay transactions. Can you provide the link?

tandi78 · Jul 2nd, 2009, 02:43 PM

Here is a link to the inactive listing..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...lenotsupported

hotshot · Jul 2nd, 2009, 03:32 PM

I would not buy anything outside of ebay.. you have minimum protection

if anything.. pay the price have her ship to you with insurance and delivery

confirmation if you decide to buy the handbag

new.old.bag · Jul 2nd, 2009, 04:12 PM

Seller does not want to pay relist fees.
Perhaps you could offer to pay them as you are the one who requested the relist.

Otherwise just watch & wait for her to relist on her own.

TinksDelite · Jul 2nd, 2009, 05:22 PM

Simple... I would NEVER transact outside of Ebay. Too many scammers, not enough protection... too many variables to go wrong.

H_addict · Jul 2nd, 2009, 05:42 PM

I've done transactions outside eBay as a buyer and as a seller. Usually, I like to deal with buyers/sellers I am familiar with (i.e. that have purchased from me in the past or the sellers I have purchased from in the past) and had great experience with. As a seller, I don't mind doing transactions outside eBay as it saves me quite a bit in FVF but then again, I know I am good for it.

If your gut is telling you not to go through with it, don't.

purses and gold · Jul 2nd, 2009, 05:52 PM

I don't recommend it, either. I did it once and I was sorry I did. Not only was the bag not as described, I couldn't leave feedback for it, nor could I get in touch with the seller through ebay about it. I lost out and learned my lesson the hard way.

LulaMaeBarnes · Jul 2nd, 2009, 05:58 PM

Doesn't sound like a good idea to me and you said it yourself she's trying to get more than it's worth. I would just wait for another to come along.

hotshot · Jul 2nd, 2009, 06:55 PM

Tandi 78

Read what Purses and Gold has to comment again about doing a transaction outside of ebay... she lost out and learned her lesson the hard way

Do you want to have that experience.. the bag will come around again.. wait to buy it the way it should be bought with protection from ebay & paypal

mmmsc · Jul 2nd, 2009, 11:02 PM

Check this seller's FB on www.toolhaus.org
Does not look trustworthy.

unluckystars · Jul 2nd, 2009, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by mmmsc

Check this seller's FB on www.toolhaus.org
Does not look trustworthy.

oh my. i wouldnt buy from this person off or on ebay! psycho!

joce_donald · Jul 2nd, 2009, 11:39 PM

I don't understand why most of you guys against the transactions off Ebay. I can see it is riskier for buyer if the seller is dishonest or untrustworthy. But not ALL sellers doing transaction off Ebay are scammers.

As a seller, I did the transaction off Ebay twice. For first transaction, I reduced the price and passed the saving from Ebay final fee to my buyer. I didn't make any more money. The transaction went well. The buyer didn't complain anything to me.

For second transaction, I made some money and buyer was happy.

Was I a scammer?

From my knowledge, if you are buying via Ebay, you are more protected. You can file a claim to Ebay if the item not as described or non-received. For Paypal, you are protected ONLY for non-delivered item

Therefore, I suggest you read the seller feedbacks, if she/he looks trustworthy, go for it. You can save about 10% off the listing price. If you do not feel safe, just pay more so you can sleep through the night.

Conclusion, do you want to play safe or do you want to save money?

new.old.bag · Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:29 AM

I think it is better to play safe.

Jul 2nd, 2009, 11:40 AM	#1
tandi78 OP Member Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 36	Buying an item outside of Ebay? There is a bag that I REALLY want that was listed on ebay. I put in a "best offer" that the seller refused (she wanted more than $100 over the retail price for it). The listing ended without a buyer. I emailed her asking if she was going to relist it and I offered a price in the middle. She said that she would relist the bag....but then sent me a "bill" directly from paypal for the bag. She did that without relisting it on ebay. I emailed her again saying that I wanted the protection from ebay....she wrote back that all paypal transactions were protected...... Does this sound right? Should I buy the bag outside of ebay?

Jul 2nd, 2009, 03:32 PM	#5
hotshot Member Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,388	I would not buy anything outside of ebay.. you have minimum protection if anything.. pay the price have her ship to you with insurance and delivery confirmation if you decide to buy the handbag
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Jul 2nd, 2009, 04:12 PM	#6
new.old.bag Member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 582	Seller does not want to pay relist fees. Perhaps you could offer to pay them as you are the one who requested the relist. Otherwise just watch & wait for her to relist on her own.
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Jul 2nd, 2009, 05:52 PM	#9
purses and gold Purse Lover Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 236	I don't recommend it, either. I did it once and I was sorry I did. Not only was the bag not as described, I couldn't leave feedback for it, nor could I get in touch with the seller through ebay about it. I lost out and learned my lesson the hard way.
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Jul 2nd, 2009, 05:58 PM	#10
LulaMaeBarnes Member Joined: Jul 2008 Location: US Posts: 2,052	Doesn't sound like a good idea to me and you said it yourself she's trying to get more than it's worth. I would just wait for another to come along.
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Jul 2nd, 2009, 12:39 PM	#2
cookie888 Member Joined: Apr 2009 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 763	She sounds dodgy - I advise buying it through ebay. I don't think Paypal protects you if you decide to outside of ebay.

Jul 2nd, 2009, 01:22 PM	#3
mmmsc monachus animadverto Joined: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,655	You will be protected only if item is not delivered if you use PP alone. You need to go through ebay and pay with PP to be protected in case you want to file a SNAD or something.. How is her feedback? If it is someone that looks trustworthy and has great FB for selling bags like yours, you might consider buying it, but it's a roll of the dice these days to do off-ebay transactions. Can you provide the link?

Jul 2nd, 2009, 02:43 PM	#4
tandi78 OP Member Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 36	Here is a link to the inactive listing.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...lenotsupported

Jul 2nd, 2009, 05:22 PM	#7
TinksDelite Member Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 1,059	Simple... I would NEVER transact outside of Ebay. Too many scammers, not enough protection... too many variables to go wrong.

Jul 2nd, 2009, 05:42 PM	#8
H_addict H is for HOCKEY Joined: Jan 2006 Location: ICE RINK Posts: 18,861	I've done transactions outside eBay as a buyer and as a seller. Usually, I like to deal with buyers/sellers I am familiar with (i.e. that have purchased from me in the past or the sellers I have purchased from in the past) and had great experience with. As a seller, I don't mind doing transactions outside eBay as it saves me quite a bit in FVF but then again, I know I am good for it. If your gut is telling you not to go through with it, don't.

Jul 2nd, 2009, 06:55 PM	#11
hotshot Member Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,388	Tandi 78 Read what Purses and Gold has to comment again about doing a transaction outside of ebay... she lost out and learned her lesson the hard way Do you want to have that experience.. the bag will come around again.. wait to buy it the way it should be bought with protection from ebay & paypal
hotshot Member Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,388

Jul 2nd, 2009, 11:02 PM	#12
mmmsc monachus animadverto Joined: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,655	Check this seller's FB on www.toolhaus.org Does not look trustworthy.

Jul 2nd, 2009, 11:39 PM	#14
joce_donald Member Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 85	I don't understand why most of you guys against the transactions off Ebay. I can see it is riskier for buyer if the seller is dishonest or untrustworthy. But not ALL sellers doing transaction off Ebay are scammers. As a seller, I did the transaction off Ebay twice. For first transaction, I reduced the price and passed the saving from Ebay final fee to my buyer. I didn't make any more money. The transaction went well. The buyer didn't complain anything to me. For second transaction, I made some money and buyer was happy. Was I a scammer? From my knowledge, if you are buying via Ebay, you are more protected. You can file a claim to Ebay if the item not as described or non-received. For Paypal, you are protected ONLY for non-delivered item Therefore, I suggest you read the seller feedbacks, if she/he looks trustworthy, go for it. You can save about 10% off the listing price. If you do not feel safe, just pay more so you can sleep through the night. Conclusion, do you want to play safe or do you want to save money?
joce_donald Member Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 85

Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:29 AM	#15
new.old.bag Member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 582	I think it is better to play safe.
new.old.bag Member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 582

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