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Ellie Mae · Aug 7th, 2009, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by MrsLinas

just got an email from mailtheft@uspis.gov:

"Thank you for completing this form.

Your Reference number is: ******

The U.S. Postal Inspection Service gathers data on mail-related crime to determine whether a violation has occurred. While we can't guarantee that we can recover lost money or items, your information can help alert Inspectors to problem areas and possibly prevent other people from being victimized.

U.S. Postal Inspectors base their investigations on the number, substance, and pattern of complaints received from the public. We ask you to keep all original documents related to your complaint. We will contact you ONLY if more information is needed.

Please DO NOT REPLY to this email"

..which doesn't tell me much

That's just an auto response stating your complaint has been received. Not a response from a real person or anyone who has read your complaint.

Ellie Mae · Aug 7th, 2009, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by LindaP

No, there is no signature for delivery confirmation, we have scanners and we scan the barcode and select 'delivered'.

Linda

So I thought, which blows the carrier's excuse that she did thought the pkg was DELIV CONFIRM. She knew it was SIG CONFIRM, which is why she signed it.

MrsLinas · Aug 7th, 2009, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Ellie Mae

That's just an auto response stating your complaint has been received. Not a response from a real person or anyone who has read your complaint.

LOL..I just realized that this morning, when I re-read the email.

alliemia · Aug 7th, 2009, 10:05 AM

i'd contact a lawyer if i were you, just to ask their opinion.

basically the postal carrier, and the postal managers are admitting that this postal carrier signed YOUR name? and that they do that all the time?

then i think what they are doing is breaking the law, as what gives them the right to forge other people's signatures.

i'd also go to your local news crew with that one.

sobe2009 · Aug 7th, 2009, 10:18 AM

The same thing happen to me couple of weeks ago. The package show as delivered and was never delivered. It had the signature of a fake name. I talked to the mail person and told them to give me the info of the person that delivered that day because I was filing a police report, since they had to proof who signed for it. Next day!!, around 10:00pm the guy from UPS showed up with my package.
Just try to call them and tell them that you are filing a police, report, since faking a signature is obviously not legal.

pigalle74 · Aug 7th, 2009, 10:24 AM

I have never had to sign for delivery confirmation. The claim by the mail carrier that she signed the receiver's name thinking it was for dc is a complete lie. The signature is usually required for an item that was insured over $200 (regardless of sig confirm or not) and I think if the seller had purchased insurance it could have made the difference, but that's beside the point anyway. The mail carrier should have NOT forged the signature under any circumstance. PERIOD. Also the post office accusing your neighbor for a theft is outrageous. This is nuts!

KittyKat65 · Aug 7th, 2009, 10:40 AM

I would go to the police station and file a report. At the very least it's mail fraud, which is a federal offense. See if that doesn't get the wheels of USPS spinning a little faster.

MrsLinas · Aug 7th, 2009, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by alliemia

i'd contact a lawyer if i were you, just to ask their opinion.

basically the postal carrier, and the postal managers are admitting that this postal carrier signed YOUR name? and that they do that all the time?

then i think what they are doing is breaking the law, as what gives them the right to forge other people's signatures.

i'd also go to your local news crew with that one.

yeah, isn't that crazy?? and when I asked them what is the point of having sig confirm if they're just gonna sign away our name, she then said, "Well, Ma'am you just have to trust your carriers."

Believe me it is on my list to contact a lawyer and my local news crew if I'm not satisfied with what the Postmaster tells me..

MrsLinas · Aug 7th, 2009, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by pigalle74

I have never had to sign for delivery confirmation. The claim by the mail carrier that she signed the receiver's name thinking it was for dc is a complete lie. The signature is usually required for an item that was insured over $200 (regardless of sig confirm or not) and I think if the seller had purchased insurance it could have made the difference, but that's beside the point anyway. The mail carrier should have NOT forged the signature under any circumstance. PERIOD. Also the post office accusing your neighbor for a theft is outrageous. This is nuts!

and the fact that my neighbor is a police officer himself..I guess the carrier didn't know that.

MrsLinas · Aug 7th, 2009, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by KittyKat65

I would go to the police station and file a report. At the very least it's mail fraud, which is a federal offense. See if that doesn't get the wheels of USPS spinning a little faster.

I might just have to do that..Thanks

pjrufus · Aug 7th, 2009, 11:19 AM

MrsL- Is your neighbor the police off. willing to help, get involved, etc., especially since he/she is already involved by the accusation? It always helps to have an "in".

MrsLinas · Aug 7th, 2009, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by pjrufus

MrsL- Is your neighbor the police off. willing to help, get involved, etc., especially since he/she is already involved by the accusation? It always helps to have an "in".

He is a police officer at a near by town, but yes he is willing to help.

I also called my local police station, and spoke to the sgt in charge, he said that I need to file a complaint with the USPS Postal Investigators first(which I already have)
then if that doesn't work, I need to see him..he's not sure if they can handle federal related problems..as they have never dealt with anything like that before. But he did tell me that the carrier shouldn't have signed for my package, much less sign my own name.

HandbagAngel · Aug 7th, 2009, 07:03 PM

USPS staff are Federal employees. They should know it is illegal to sign on behalf of others. My local post office wouldl never do that, but I live in a big city with huge population.

Please keep us posted.

mmmsc · Aug 7th, 2009, 07:04 PM

Please let us know what happens here

rilokiley · Aug 7th, 2009, 07:52 PM

OP- I know you have already filed a complaint with the US Postal Inspection Service, but please feel free to PM me if you need help. My father is a postal inspector with USPIS, and I told him about your story. Though he is based in NY, he says he would be willing to try to help.

Originally Posted by Ellie Mae

You may be right, Pigalle... forgery... by the postal carrier... EEEEKS!

MrsLinas.. Perhaps this is where you need to go next for help... US Postal Insp Serv... https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/. Their mission is to "investigate civil issues between the public and the Postal System".... make some contact here, perhaps. I think this entity is NOT a part of USPS, therefore, they would be more likely to take this issue seriously.... and not be "protecting one of their own".

This is not true. USPIS is a part of USPS.

Aug 7th, 2009, 10:24 AM	#51
pigalle74 Member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 920	I have never had to sign for delivery confirmation. The claim by the mail carrier that she signed the receiver's name thinking it was for dc is a complete lie. The signature is usually required for an item that was insured over $200 (regardless of sig confirm or not) and I think if the seller had purchased insurance it could have made the difference, but that's beside the point anyway. The mail carrier should have NOT forged the signature under any circumstance. PERIOD. Also the post office accusing your neighbor for a theft is outrageous. This is nuts!
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Aug 7th, 2009, 10:40 AM	#52
KittyKat65 Aussie Gal In U.S.A. Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,427	I would go to the police station and file a report. At the very least it's mail fraud, which is a federal offense. See if that doesn't get the wheels of USPS spinning a little faster.
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Aug 7th, 2009, 11:19 AM	#56
pjrufus Member Joined: May 2009 Posts: 360	MrsL- Is your neighbor the police off. willing to help, get involved, etc., especially since he/she is already involved by the accusation? It always helps to have an "in".
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Aug 7th, 2009, 07:03 PM	#58
HandbagAngel Member Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 7,175	USPS staff are Federal employees. They should know it is illegal to sign on behalf of others. My local post office wouldl never do that, but I live in a big city with huge population. Please keep us posted.
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Aug 7th, 2009, 10:05 AM	#49
alliemia love shopping!!! Joined: Jun 2008 Location: NY Posts: 3,292	i'd contact a lawyer if i were you, just to ask their opinion. basically the postal carrier, and the postal managers are admitting that this postal carrier signed YOUR name? and that they do that all the time? then i think what they are doing is breaking the law, as what gives them the right to forge other people's signatures. i'd also go to your local news crew with that one.

Aug 7th, 2009, 10:18 AM	#50
sobe2009 Member Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 244	The same thing happen to me couple of weeks ago. The package show as delivered and was never delivered. It had the signature of a fake name. I talked to the mail person and told them to give me the info of the person that delivered that day because I was filing a police report, since they had to proof who signed for it. Next day!!, around 10:00pm the guy from UPS showed up with my package. Just try to call them and tell them that you are filing a police, report, since faking a signature is obviously not legal.

Aug 7th, 2009, 07:04 PM	#59
mmmsc monachus animadverto Joined: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,838	Please let us know what happens here

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