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sngo · Jan 16th, 2007, 12:16 AM

I was outbid on this auction today and within minutes if the close, the seller sent me 2nd chance offer. She claimed to have canceled the winning bidder's offer due to poor feedback. Do you think this is legitimate? Is this common? Should I take the offer? Seller has only been registered since Sept and has never sold such an expensive item. Thanks for the advice!

eBay: Balenciaga Motorcycle Metallic Magenta Classique Le Dix (item 190071123306 end time Jan-15-07 18:46:55 PST)

joolluver · Jan 16th, 2007, 02:30 AM

Hi first check to see if the second chance offer came through my messages in your ebay page. If it came through there then it is valid. However, I wouldn't take the SCO on this item because the seller is relatively new and they have made the bidders IDs private. This screams shill bidding to me, they may be using other accounts to artificially increase the prices and then when they win their own auction, they send a SCO to the second highest bidder. But it's up to you. Good luck.

joolluver · Jan 16th, 2007, 02:31 AM

If you decide to take the SCO, I suggest you pay through paypal by credit card.

cmtsydny · Jan 16th, 2007, 03:37 AM

Definitely check in your messages on your ebay page. If it doesn't show up there it is probably fake. A spoof email. If that's the case then report it to ebay.

I had a second chance offer sent to me on an item I never bid on! You have to be really careful with those. You can also contact the seller to see if it really is a second chance offer. Good luck!

primeraclase · Jan 17th, 2007, 04:29 PM

Depends on how it was sent. Do you see a record of it in your Ebay 'mailbox'? If not, it's not real. Even if so, such a fast SCO can indicate shill-bidding. I'm always VERY wary when I receive an SCO within minutes of the auction close. The seller is obligated to sell to the high bidder unless that bidder's account (through feedback or location) violates the terms of the auction. No way they could speak to a seller in a matter of minutes so if it does come that fast, IMO it's fishy.

LV Rawks · Jan 17th, 2007, 05:01 PM

I agree with the above...first check your ebay messages, even send a "ask seller a question" and ask if she/he sent you the SCO.
I also agree that it sounds like shill bidding, but if you don't mind the price and you feel comfortable, go for it.

Rondafaye · Jan 17th, 2007, 05:57 PM

Well, it is a good price so if you want it, go for it. But, in addition to checking your EBay mailbox, you should send the seller an e-mail through the "contact seller" button on the auction page. Another PFer was offered a a second-chance BBag yesterday. She contacted the seller, who responded and said it was a scam.

Also, do pay by CC.

shizuka · Jan 19th, 2007, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by joolluver

Hi first check to see if the second chance offer came through my messages in your ebay page. If it came through there then it is valid. However, I wouldn't take the SCO on this item because the seller is relatively new and they have made the bidders IDs private. This screams shill bidding to me, they may be using other accounts to artificially increase the prices and then when they win their own auction, they send a SCO to the second highest bidder. But it's up to you. Good luck.

joolluver is right.

LOREBUNDE · Jan 27th, 2007, 01:14 PM

I've offered SCO if I have more than one item. It the item sold for a good price, rather than list the second one and start another auction, I'll just offer the next bidder SCO. It saves a lot of time.

Cindi · Jan 27th, 2007, 02:54 PM

I once accepted a SCO. The seller had 2 of the same item so this was a way to sell both. It is hard to tell when you are being scammed. The only thing you can do is take every precaution possible.

lainie63 · Jan 27th, 2007, 03:00 PM

I have to admit I love the bag but it looks like someone was shill bidding!!!

Jan 16th, 2007, 12:16 AM	#1
sngo OP Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 205	2nd chance offer - legit? I was outbid on this auction today and within minutes if the close, the seller sent me 2nd chance offer. She claimed to have canceled the winning bidder's offer due to poor feedback. Do you think this is legitimate? Is this common? Should I take the offer? Seller has only been registered since Sept and has never sold such an expensive item. Thanks for the advice! eBay: Balenciaga Motorcycle Metallic Magenta Classique Le Dix (item 190071123306 end time Jan-15-07 18:46:55 PST)
sngo OP Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 205

Jan 16th, 2007, 02:30 AM	#2
joolluver Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 361	Re: 2nd chance offer - legit? Hi first check to see if the second chance offer came through my messages in your ebay page. If it came through there then it is valid. However, I wouldn't take the SCO on this item because the seller is relatively new and they have made the bidders IDs private. This screams shill bidding to me, they may be using other accounts to artificially increase the prices and then when they win their own auction, they send a SCO to the second highest bidder. But it's up to you. Good luck.
joolluver Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 361

Jan 16th, 2007, 02:31 AM	#3
joolluver Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 361	Re: 2nd chance offer - legit? If you decide to take the SCO, I suggest you pay through paypal by credit card.
joolluver Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 361

Jan 16th, 2007, 03:37 AM	#4
cmtsydny Member Joined: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 6	Re: 2nd chance offer - legit? Definitely check in your messages on your ebay page. If it doesn't show up there it is probably fake. A spoof email. If that's the case then report it to ebay. I had a second chance offer sent to me on an item I never bid on! You have to be really careful with those. You can also contact the seller to see if it really is a second chance offer. Good luck!

Jan 17th, 2007, 04:29 PM	#5
primeraclase Member Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 54	Re: 2nd chance offer - legit? Depends on how it was sent. Do you see a record of it in your Ebay 'mailbox'? If not, it's not real. Even if so, such a fast SCO can indicate shill-bidding. I'm always VERY wary when I receive an SCO within minutes of the auction close. The seller is obligated to sell to the high bidder unless that bidder's account (through feedback or location) violates the terms of the auction. No way they could speak to a seller in a matter of minutes so if it does come that fast, IMO it's fishy.
primeraclase Member Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 54

Jan 17th, 2007, 05:01 PM	#6
LV Rawks Sofa King Aware Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 4,427	Re: 2nd chance offer - legit? I agree with the above...first check your ebay messages, even send a "ask seller a question" and ask if she/he sent you the SCO. I also agree that it sounds like shill bidding, but if you don't mind the price and you feel comfortable, go for it.
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Jan 17th, 2007, 05:57 PM	#7
Rondafaye Member Joined: Aug 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 3,157	Re: 2nd chance offer - legit? Well, it is a good price so if you want it, go for it. But, in addition to checking your EBay mailbox, you should send the seller an e-mail through the "contact seller" button on the auction page. Another PFer was offered a a second-chance BBag yesterday. She contacted the seller, who responded and said it was a scam. Also, do pay by CC.

Jan 27th, 2007, 01:14 PM	#9
LOREBUNDE Member Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 5,089	Re: 2nd chance offer - legit? I've offered SCO if I have more than one item. It the item sold for a good price, rather than list the second one and start another auction, I'll just offer the next bidder SCO. It saves a lot of time.

Jan 27th, 2007, 02:54 PM	#10
Cindi Happy Thanksgiving Joined: Aug 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,041	Re: 2nd chance offer - legit? I once accepted a SCO. The seller had 2 of the same item so this was a way to sell both. It is hard to tell when you are being scammed. The only thing you can do is take every precaution possible.
	__________________ Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. Last edited by Cindi; Jan 27th, 2007 at 03:00 PM.

Jan 27th, 2007, 03:00 PM	#11
lainie63 GO HOYAS! Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,045	Re: 2nd chance offer - legit? I have to admit I love the bag but it looks like someone was shill bidding!!!
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