Leather = "Timeless"

athena2k1 · Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:10 PM

Well I've been reading on here how a LOT of you ladies like the leather because it's "timeless" and classy etc. And I agree to a Certain extent (but I just love the leather stuff now becuase I love it now - mostly) however, whenever I look on eBay in the vintage section and see all the leather bags, it's like you can just totally tell they are so dated...like the bags from the 80-90's where everything is just so plain, no details, no pockets, usually a simple flap and maybe a turnlock.

I had cheap no-name purses like this when I was in Junior High in the mid-90's and they look just like these vintage Coach purses. And to me they really aren't all that attractive today - especially compared to the so beautiful and luscious bags of today.

Sooo that being said, I really wonder how "timeless" you all REALLY think these bags are...don't you think that in 10-20+ years our lovely bags of today will be just as outdated looking as the afore mentioned vintage bags?

(pics attached for examples)

gabz · Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:21 PM

i think there are some styles that are also classic and timeless. that said, when u look at a bag that is 20 yrs old, come on, no matter how well it wears u know it is an older bag. these bags are meant to b used for the vintage classic feel and not to look current.

Carolina59 · Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:22 PM

I think you should check out Shakti29's vintage leather Coach collection. She has choice pieces that are both unique and interesting--not plain or dull, IMO. I think the signature bags will be dated (and I don't know how well they will hold up over time). Some of the leather bags may be dated.

The thing about those old Coach bags was how well they were made. And some people prefer simple to lots of bells and whistles on their bags.

To each her own.

P.S. I own one of those vintage Coach bags that I bought when I moved to NYC in 1986. And I love that it says, "Made in New York City, U.S.A" on the creed.

athena2k1 · Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:26 PM

[quote=gabz;6832961]i think there are some styles that are also classic and timeless. that said, when u look at a bag that is 20 yrs old, come on, no matter how well it wears u know it is an older bag. these bags are meant to b used for the vintage classic feel and not to look current.[/quote]

Yeah, I totally get that...but that's kinda my point...they look dated, so therefore not timeless. If you can really tell that they are old and not of a current style, then I don't think that places them in the "timeless" category.

louislover260 · Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:49 PM

Vintage is the keyword here...

And I am sure someone will ask the same question about OUR bags... a bag will date to it's era on MANY factors... like silouhette, colors used, amount of hardware, style... etc...

No matter what, a bag will look it's era ESPECIALLY one as famous as Coach...

The only brand that really won't date is LV because they make the same stuff for 50+years before it's retired...

Pursanista · Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:54 PM

You bring up some good points, but I have to disagree. The bags of the 80's and 90's are understated and true classics. To me, they are icons of leather purses. These classic designs are even available to order on Coach's site. IMHO.

PurpleRose · Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:04 PM

I'm not a big fan of the older or "vintage" Coach styles, but that's mainly because I prefer more hardwear or brighter colored leather. I do think those styles above are still classic and fairly sought-after, at least from what I've read. They're just not for me.

It's entirely possible that the bags I consider "timeless" today will look dated in 15-20 years' time, but I think that's a good lifespan for a bag. (And it's entirely possible that I'll love my bags and keep using them even if others consider them dated, lol!)

shakti29 · Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Carolina59

I think you should check out Shakti29's vintage leather Coach collection. She has choice pieces that are both unique and interesting--not plain or dull, IMO. I think the signature bags will be dated (and I don't know how well they will hold up over time). Some of the leather bags may be dated.

The thing about those old Coach bags was how well they were made. And some people prefer simple to lots of bells and whistles on their bags.

To each her own.

P.S. I own one of those vintage Coach bags that I bought when I moved to NYC in 1986. And I love that it says, "Made in New York City, U.S.A" on the creed.

WOW! What a nice compliment! I had LOTS more vintage/classic bags that I sold just because I felt they weren't "stylish" enough for me. I kept the ones that I feel ARE timeless. Styles and trends come and go and you never know...some of those old bags MIGHT come back in style!

grayxie · Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:11 PM

Every thing happens in a cycle, look at the new Bleeker's, Thompson, Legacy boutique exclusives all of which I think are a throw back to a different era. At least with the classic pieces you can see what the new versions were inspired by.

shakti29 · Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by athena2k1

Well I've been reading on here how a LOT of you ladies like the leather because it's "timeless" and classy etc. And I agree to a Certain extent (but I just love the leather stuff now becuase I love it now - mostly) however, whenever I look on eBay in the vintage section and see all the leather bags, it's like you can just totally tell they are so dated...like the bags from the 80-90's where everything is just so plain, no details, no pockets, usually a simple flap and maybe a turnlock.

I had cheap no-name purses like this when I was in Junior High in the mid-90's and they look just like these vintage Coach purses. And to me they really aren't all that attractive today - especially compared to the so beautiful and luscious bags of today.

Sooo that being said, I really wonder how "timeless" you all REALLY think these bags are...don't you think that in 10-20+ years our lovely bags of today will be just as outdated looking as the afore mentioned vintage bags?

(pics attached for examples)

You are right, the "cheap no-name purses" might look like Coach bags, but they probably weren't made with the quality of leather and craftmanship that went into the vintage Coach bags. I have seen some AMAZING Coach bags that are over 30 years old without a missing stitch or tear in the leather.

And yes, I'm sure alot of bags we carry now will be out of style eventually. And unfortunately with the stories I'm reading about new Coach bags falling apart, they probably won't even be around and useable in 10-20 years.

shakti29 · Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pursanista

You bring up some good points, but I have to disagree. The bags of the 80's and 90's are understated and true classics. To me, they are icons of leather purses. These classic designs are even available to order on Coach's site. IMHO.

ITA!

Part of the FABULOUS history of Coach are ALL the bags they have designed, starting in 1962 (see my Bonnie Cashin thread further down the page). As you can see, I am rather passionate about the vintage thing. And like I said, I wouldn't want every bag ever designed, in any era. I just appreciate the history and quality of those older bags.

athena2k1 · Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by grayxie

Every thing happens in a cycle, look at the new Bleeker's, Thompson, Legacy boutique exclusives all of which I think are a throw back to a different era. At least with the classic pieces you can see what the new versions were inspired by.

I wasn't aware that some of today's looks are based on those of yester-year. I haven't been into Coach for very long at all, so all I can go off of are the things I see on eBay for sale at the moment.

If I found some bags that looked anything like those that are being made today I Would be all over them, but I haven't come across any yet.

greenpixie · Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:51 PM

grayxie and shakti are right - a lot of the current designs are actually based on prior designs, which are great!

Legacy:

and

or

Ali:

and

Coachgrl's new Ellie and the original vintage one:

Just to show a few...

Serendipity · Jun 23rd, 2008, 07:18 PM

Oh my gosh! I used to own that demi button bag! That is definately timeless and there isn't a month that goes by I wish I still had it.

LAltiero85 · Jun 23rd, 2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Carolina59

I think you should check out Shakti29's vintage leather Coach collection. She has choice pieces that are both unique and interesting--not plain or dull, IMO. I think the signature bags will be dated (and I don't know how well they will hold up over time). Some of the leather bags may be dated.

The thing about those old Coach bags was how well they were made. And some people prefer simple to lots of bells and whistles on their bags.

To each her own.

P.S. I own one of those vintage Coach bags that I bought when I moved to NYC in 1986. And I love that it says, "Made in New York City, U.S.A" on the creed.

That's so cool about your bag! That's definitely one to keep! And Shakti's collection is TDF!!!! She has awesome vintage bags that are goooorgeous.

I guess it's all in what you like.

Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:21 PM	#2
gabz Returning to Tiffany Location: Canada Eh!	i think there are some styles that are also classic and timeless. that said, when u look at a bag that is 20 yrs old, come on, no matter how well it wears u know it is an older bag. these bags are meant to b used for the vintage classic feel and not to look current. __________________ Il faut qu'à la mode. Chacun s'accommode; le fou l'introduit , le sage la suit.

Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:49 PM	#5
louislover260 Lil' Secret Box	Vintage is the keyword here... And I am sure someone will ask the same question about OUR bags... a bag will date to it's era on MANY factors... like silouhette, colors used, amount of hardware, style... etc... No matter what, a bag will look it's era ESPECIALLY one as famous as Coach... The only brand that really won't date is LV because they make the same stuff for 50+years before it's retired... __________________ Visit my pre-fire bag showcase: http://forum.purseblog.com/your-bag-...se-272416.html PLEASE HELP ME RE-FIND EVERYTHING IN MY COLLECTION!!

Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:04 PM	#7
PurpleRose Member Location: Stimulating the economy...	I'm not a big fan of the older or "vintage" Coach styles, but that's mainly because I prefer more hardwear or brighter colored leather. I do think those styles above are still classic and fairly sought-after, at least from what I've read. They're just not for me. It's entirely possible that the bags I consider "timeless" today will look dated in 15-20 years' time, but I think that's a good lifespan for a bag. (And it's entirely possible that I'll love my bags and keep using them even if others consider them dated, lol!) __________________ ~Easily distracted by bags and pretty, shiny things~ *What I'm wishing for... (hey, a girl can dream!)* '06 Legacy satchel in Whiskey or Natural Ergo pleated satchel in Black or Mahogany Carly in Dark Denim Apple Keyfob I broke my ban! HH Suki is on the way...

Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:51 PM	#13
greenpixie Coach & Ignes Mod Location: sunny CA	grayxie and shakti are right - a lot of the current designs are actually based on prior designs, which are great! Legacy: and or Ali: and Coachgrl's new Ellie and the original vintage one: Just to show a few... __________________ GP is banned!

Jun 23rd, 2008, 07:18 PM	#14
Serendipity Member	Oh my gosh! I used to own that demi button bag! That is definately timeless and there isn't a month that goes by I wish I still had it. __________________ "You will never leave where you are until you decide where you'd rather be."

Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:22 PM	#3
Carolina59 Member	I think you should check out Shakti29's vintage leather Coach collection. She has choice pieces that are both unique and interesting--not plain or dull, IMO. I think the signature bags will be dated (and I don't know how well they will hold up over time). Some of the leather bags may be dated. The thing about those old Coach bags was how well they were made. And some people prefer simple to lots of bells and whistles on their bags. To each her own. P.S. I own one of those vintage Coach bags that I bought when I moved to NYC in 1986. And I love that it says, "Made in New York City, U.S.A" on the creed.

Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:26 PM	#4
athena2k1 Member Location: Huntington Beach, CA	[quote=gabz;6832961]i think there are some styles that are also classic and timeless. that said, when u look at a bag that is 20 yrs old, come on, no matter how well it wears u know it is an older bag. these bags are meant to b used for the vintage classic feel and not to look current.[/quote] Yeah, I totally get that...but that's kinda my point...they look dated, so therefore not timeless. If you can really tell that they are old and not of a current style, then I don't think that places them in the "timeless" category.

Jun 23rd, 2008, 05:54 PM	#6
Pursanista new purse high, mmmm Location: Colorado	You bring up some good points, but I have to disagree. The bags of the 80's and 90's are understated and true classics. To me, they are icons of leather purses. These classic designs are even available to order on Coach's site. IMHO.

Jun 23rd, 2008, 06:11 PM	#9
grayxie Member Location: PA	Every thing happens in a cycle, look at the new Bleeker's, Thompson, Legacy boutique exclusives all of which I think are a throw back to a different era. At least with the classic pieces you can see what the new versions were inspired by.