Outlet Legacy Bags Update...

baglady39 · Sep 29th, 2008, 07:26 PM

I didn't get a lot of info since it was hectic, but I was told last weekend (and saw a couple of pics) that the factory Legacy line will come in both sig and leather. The leather is supposed to be lighter and a type of burnished leather... it will not be vachetta. It will also not have the Legacy stripe lining, but this is to be expected, as the factory line will be an overall cheaper line. It will lack some of the bells and whistles of the retail line. What I have seen in terms of photos looks good, but they did not yet have any of the bags in the back so that I could see any of them IRL. Usually they are shipped to the outlets well before the floor set, so you should keep asking when you visit the outlet. Maybe one of us will get lucky and get to see some of them IRL. Now whether they "rerelease" any of the Legacy bags, I don't know... By that I mean release the EXACT same bag as the retail version, and it's only difference being a "F" in front of the style number on the creed. This has been happening a lot with the summer fabric and patchwork bags. Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if they did that, but again I'm sure something would be left out of the factory version(stripe lining ,etc) since the Legacy retail line was a higher end line.

What you are seeing right now at the outlets are the boutique/JAX transfers from the 2007 RETAIL boutique line...shoulder bags, flaps, Leighs, Gigis, Lily, satchels, etc. THey may still continue to transfer some of these bags throughout Oct, as the retail stock to the outlets come from different sources (customer returns, boutique displays and stock, and JAX overstock), and they are not all transferred at the same time. At the moment, the Bleecker bags from the boutique lines have been (and are) in transit to the outlets.

90046 · Sep 29th, 2008, 07:51 PM

Without the Legacy lining kills the deal for me.
I'm interested in old boutique stock found at outlets.

Thanks for all the info, ladies!

^Carrie^ · Sep 29th, 2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baglady39

I didn't get a lot of info since it was hectic, but I was told last weekend (and saw a couple of pics) that the factory Legacy line will come in both sig and leather. The leather is supposed to be lighter and a type of burnished leather... it will not be vachetta. It will also not have the Legacy stripe lining, but this is to be expected, as the factory line will be an overall cheaper line.

I for one will be bummed if they wont be using the legacy lining on these bags.
The Legacy lining and the vachetta leather is what makes it a legacy bag! (along with the turnlocks)
On the upside the Vachetta leather tends to scratch so this might be a more scratch resistant leather they will be using in these factory bags?
The word 'burnished' kind of scares me though.....

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Originally Posted by baglady39

Now whether they "rerelease" any of the Legacy bags, I don't know... By that I mean release the EXACT same bag as the retail version, and it's only difference being a "F" in front of the style number on the creed. This has been happening a lot with the summer fabric and patchwork bags.

I pray that they will look the same/similar! (and hoping against hope for the legacy lining as well)
The "F" in the creed is NOT a factor for me as I am the only one going to be seeing the inside of the bag.
I just LOVE the legacy bags from '06 and '07 and want several of the styles...
At factory prices I will be able to afford ALL of the ones that I want.YAY!

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Originally Posted by baglady39

What you are seeing right now at the outlets are the boutique/JAX transfers from the 2007 RETAIL boutique line...shoulder bags, flaps, Leighs, Gigis, Lily, satchels, etc. THey may still continue to transfer some of these bags throughout Oct, as the retail stock to the outlets come from different sources (customer returns, boutique displays and stock, and JAX overstock), and they are not all transferred at the same time. At the moment, the Bleecker bags from the boutique lines have been (and are) in transit to the outlets.

I am on 'client track' for a few of the '07 bags so I am anxiously awaiting "THE CALL".
I have a great SA that has my wishlist.

her!

There are a few '08 retail bags that I almost bought at the last P.C.E but passed on them thinking that they might be outlet bound soon.
They arent on the website anymore so time will tell if I was right......

TY Baglady for the great info on the upcoming Legacy factory bags!

arsweb · Sep 29th, 2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ^Carrie^

I for one will be bummed if they wont be using the legacy lining on these bags.
The Legacy lining and the vachetta leather is what makes it a legacy bag! (along with the turnlocks)
On the upside the Vachetta leather tends to scratch so this might be a more scratch resistant leather they will be using in these factory bags?
The word 'burnished' kind of scares me though.....

The leather Zoe is made of burnished leather. It's extremely easy care leather, maybe easier than pebbled leather since burnished leather can be conditioned and pebbled cannot! Water literally runs off the Zoe's burnished leather. It also doesn't scratch easily. The leather is very thin though, I'm not sure how it could be used on a structured bag (most legacy has been pretty structured) unless they make it thicker. If the outlet legacy is indeed made of this same leather, and has the older '06 and '07 styling going on, I'm on the bandwagon regardless of what the bag is lined with!

sissabelle · Sep 29th, 2008, 08:15 PM

I don't understand why Coach is doing this. Why not just keep those popular styles in a boutique line with a lighter weight & more manageable leather if there were so many complaints about the vachetta? I kinda feel like this cheapens the Legacy name in a way. Although I guess they've already done that with the new line. I'm not interested in this outlet version at all. Hope I didn't offend anyone, just my 2 cents.

kattykay · Sep 29th, 2008, 08:22 PM

baglady just in case you didnt know on the re-released patchwork bags they changed some of the patches, i didnt realize it when i first looked at it, i didnt even know it was a factoru line until i got it home. on the 07 fall patchwork they changed the snake patches to wine patent leather and chocolate velour and some of the other patches but from a far you wouldnt really notice it

baglady39 · Sep 29th, 2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sissabelle

I don't understand why Coach is doing this. Why not just keep those popular styles in a boutique line with a lighter weight & more manageable leather if there were so many complaints about the vachetta? I kinda feel like this cheapens the Legacy name in a way. Although I guess they've already done that with the new line. I'm not interested in this outlet version at all. Hope I didn't offend anyone, just my 2 cents.

I'm in agreement with you, but I would only be upset if they are "rereleases". The reason I say that is it should be obvious between the boutique and factory lines otherwise IMO. However, I can't deny that term "Legacy" will be somewhat cheapened by the factory line when they don't even advertise their factory stores on their own website, kwim?? So I'm in complete agreement with you there!

I'm definitely openminded about the factory line at this point, and might purchase some of the bags if they are decent. I just really don't want them to look exactly the same because we were told that Legacy was a higher and and more "exclusive" line. But on the other hand, I don't want to see cheap looking bags at the outlet either that are called "Legacy" bags. I'm currently not super impressed with some of the bags they have just come out with there.

baglady39 · Sep 29th, 2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kattykay

baglady just in case you didnt know on the re-released patchwork bags they changed some of the patches, i didnt realize it when i first looked at it, i didnt even know it was a factoru line until i got it home. on the 07 fall patchwork they changed the snake patches to wine patent leather and chocolate velour and some of the other patches but from a far you wouldnt really notice it

Those bags I haven't really looked at, but the Scribble looked the same, as did the summer patchwork. I think it depends on what they have to do to be cost effective for the factory line. THey also did create different bags in addition to the rereleases within the same line (i.e. more styles or a different type of hobo), but there were some that were identical to the previous year's styles. I bought a Scribble bag initially that I thought was like my friend's till I realized it had a F on the creed. I don't really care that much except that I think it devalues the retail line a bit...and for sure you can get the bags cheaper at the outlet. I guess the summer fabric is cheaper than some of the more exotic patchworks like those that have the printed python, so they probably have to make substitutions. I'm just not sure that the average person is going to notice the difference, and that's great...but...do you really want to spend the full retail price on the bag at the boutique and then have them rereleased in the identical or nearly identical form in mass quantities at the outlet?

baglady39 · Sep 29th, 2008, 08:33 PM

The Bleecker leather is also a burnished leather. It's nice IMO. Of course there are different grades. I was told by the outlet that the leather will be thick burnished leather, but who knows!!

kattykay · Sep 29th, 2008, 08:53 PM

absolutly not, i would never buy a patchwork or a seasonall bag at a boutique. in fact there arent many bags i would buy from the boutique. right now i think i might buy a sabrina from the boutique but thats only because they are new and flying off shelves so i dont predict them going to outlets soon, at least the leather ones.

baglady39 · Sep 29th, 2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kattykay

absolutly not, i would never buy a patchwork or a seasonall bag at a boutique. in fact there arent many bags i would buy from the boutique. right now i think i might buy a sabrina from the boutique but thats only because they are new and flying off shelves so i dont predict them going to outlets soon, at least the leather ones.

ITA! I'm not a huge patchwork person, but I did buy a couple at the boutiques and then regretted it not only because of the outlet rereleases, but just the huge clearance sales at L&T and Macys. They usually have a huge amount left over, and they are really cheap if you wait long enough! So I stopped purchasing them at the boutique real quick!

I actually would have never thought some of the Bleecker items would end up so quickly at the outlets, but it seems I'm always amazed. I don't know what they are thinking!! I agree I think it will be a while for the Sabrina to hit the outlets, but you never know I guess. I'm wanting the Julianne, but I'm trying to see if I can get that on dept store discount (or otherwise) rather than full price. Sometimes I get impatient though!! That one at Nordies was calling my name REALLY loudly over the weekend!

kattykay · Sep 29th, 2008, 09:36 PM

i know exactly what you mean im going tomorrow or weds to look at all the new stuff and i know im coming home with julianne or sabrina, or even amanda if its not too small. and i would never expected the bleeker to be at outlets so soon, i saw some of it in mid august and it was like 2 or 3 and i dont think they were store returns either

jannat84 · Sep 29th, 2008, 10:10 PM

i would love to get legacy type bags at the outlet...but i would be very very peeved if they are exactly like the 06 and 07 ones...what about those that paid full price for there bags??? that's just not fair at all...i guess there will be a difference in material but still...

i love the vachetta...the vachetta is what made the legacy bags so rich and great...i dont know how i'll feel about the burnished leather??

i don't know what coach is thinking...i mean after the recent deals at the outlet, i don't think i will ever pay full price for anything again! good for us...but bad for coach...!

donnalynn11 · Sep 29th, 2008, 10:20 PM

I will reserve final judgement until I see the new outlet Legacy bags, but my recent experience with the mineral chelsea satchel (the outlet version was very pretty, and I was happy with it until I saw it compared to the boutique version!!!) has me leaning towards not being too interested in these bags. I'm sure I will get one or two just because of the prices, but I dont think anything can truly compare with the original Legacy. Even the current Legacy line - it has some good features, but I dont feel the desire to have EVERY one of them like I do w/the original Legacy!

kattykay · Sep 29th, 2008, 10:29 PM

you know, i dont know how much i like the old legacy leather, i kinda think its a little to think and hard, but then again i do really love soft smooshy leather so maybe ill like this factory line better..who knows?

Sep 29th, 2008, 08:15 PM	#20
sissabelle happy new year!	I don't understand why Coach is doing this. Why not just keep those popular styles in a boutique line with a lighter weight & more manageable leather if there were so many complaints about the vachetta? I kinda feel like this cheapens the Legacy name in a way. Although I guess they've already done that with the new line. I'm not interested in this outlet version at all. Hope I didn't offend anyone, just my 2 cents. __________________

Sep 29th, 2008, 08:22 PM	#21
kattykay sofa king sexy! Location: new jersey	baglady just in case you didnt know on the re-released patchwork bags they changed some of the patches, i didnt realize it when i first looked at it, i didnt even know it was a factoru line until i got it home. on the 07 fall patchwork they changed the snake patches to wine patent leather and chocolate velour and some of the other patches but from a far you wouldnt really notice it __________________ Some say the glass is half empty, Some say the glass is half full, I say "are you gonna drink that?"

Sep 29th, 2008, 08:53 PM	#25
kattykay sofa king sexy! Location: new jersey	absolutly not, i would never buy a patchwork or a seasonall bag at a boutique. in fact there arent many bags i would buy from the boutique. right now i think i might buy a sabrina from the boutique but thats only because they are new and flying off shelves so i dont predict them going to outlets soon, at least the leather ones. __________________ Some say the glass is half empty, Some say the glass is half full, I say "are you gonna drink that?"

Sep 29th, 2008, 09:36 PM	#27
kattykay sofa king sexy! Location: new jersey	i know exactly what you mean im going tomorrow or weds to look at all the new stuff and i know im coming home with julianne or sabrina, or even amanda if its not too small. and i would never expected the bleeker to be at outlets so soon, i saw some of it in mid august and it was like 2 or 3 and i dont think they were store returns either __________________ Some say the glass is half empty, Some say the glass is half full, I say "are you gonna drink that?"

Sep 29th, 2008, 10:29 PM	#30
kattykay sofa king sexy! Location: new jersey	you know, i dont know how much i like the old legacy leather, i kinda think its a little to think and hard, but then again i do really love soft smooshy leather so maybe ill like this factory line better..who knows? __________________ Some say the glass is half empty, Some say the glass is half full, I say "are you gonna drink that?"

Sep 29th, 2008, 07:26 PM	#16
baglady39 Coach Mod	I didn't get a lot of info since it was hectic, but I was told last weekend (and saw a couple of pics) that the factory Legacy line will come in both sig and leather. The leather is supposed to be lighter and a type of burnished leather... it will not be vachetta. It will also not have the Legacy stripe lining, but this is to be expected, as the factory line will be an overall cheaper line. It will lack some of the bells and whistles of the retail line. What I have seen in terms of photos looks good, but they did not yet have any of the bags in the back so that I could see any of them IRL. Usually they are shipped to the outlets well before the floor set, so you should keep asking when you visit the outlet. Maybe one of us will get lucky and get to see some of them IRL. Now whether they "rerelease" any of the Legacy bags, I don't know... By that I mean release the EXACT same bag as the retail version, and it's only difference being a "F" in front of the style number on the creed. This has been happening a lot with the summer fabric and patchwork bags. Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if they did that, but again I'm sure something would be left out of the factory version(stripe lining ,etc) since the Legacy retail line was a higher end line. What you are seeing right now at the outlets are the boutique/JAX transfers from the 2007 RETAIL boutique line...shoulder bags, flaps, Leighs, Gigis, Lily, satchels, etc. THey may still continue to transfer some of these bags throughout Oct, as the retail stock to the outlets come from different sources (customer returns, boutique displays and stock, and JAX overstock), and they are not all transferred at the same time. At the moment, the Bleecker bags from the boutique lines have been (and are) in transit to the outlets.

Sep 29th, 2008, 07:51 PM	#17
90046 Member	Without the Legacy lining kills the deal for me. I'm interested in old boutique stock found at outlets. Thanks for all the info, ladies!

Sep 29th, 2008, 08:33 PM	#24
baglady39 Coach Mod	The Bleecker leather is also a burnished leather. It's nice IMO. Of course there are different grades. I was told by the outlet that the leather will be thick burnished leather, but who knows!!

Sep 29th, 2008, 10:10 PM	#28
jannat84 Member	i would love to get legacy type bags at the outlet...but i would be very very peeved if they are exactly like the 06 and 07 ones...what about those that paid full price for there bags??? that's just not fair at all...i guess there will be a difference in material but still... i love the vachetta...the vachetta is what made the legacy bags so rich and great...i dont know how i'll feel about the burnished leather?? i don't know what coach is thinking...i mean after the recent deals at the outlet, i don't think i will ever pay full price for anything again! good for us...but bad for coach...!

Sep 29th, 2008, 10:20 PM	#29
donnalynn11 Member	I will reserve final judgement until I see the new outlet Legacy bags, but my recent experience with the mineral chelsea satchel (the outlet version was very pretty, and I was happy with it until I saw it compared to the boutique version!!!) has me leaning towards not being too interested in these bags. I'm sure I will get one or two just because of the prices, but I dont think anything can truly compare with the original Legacy. Even the current Legacy line - it has some good features, but I dont feel the desire to have EVERY one of them like I do w/the original Legacy!