answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! - Page 2

Parus · Feb 9th, 2007, 11:10 PM

Thanks kallison! As a newbie, it's hard to glean these little bits from so many different places. Hopefully it will soon be accessible to everyone!

krispin41 · Feb 10th, 2007, 12:11 AM

Kallison you rock! Did they make you a MOD?

kallison · Feb 10th, 2007, 12:14 AM

^ha, not a mod!

whatever happened with that?!

batgirl0711 · Feb 10th, 2007, 12:27 AM

i thought we expressed our interest in having you and aarti as mods.....maybe megs, vlad, and the other mods got busy.

Fisherprice · Feb 10th, 2007, 04:51 AM

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Dustbags come in two main looks. The outlet bag is white with red lettering, while the full-price one is brown with red lettering. Both say “COACH est. 1941” and have a red drawstring. (It is notable that the outlet bags are much thinner than the ones you get at a full-price store). There are special edition dustbags out there for certain bags, but they do NOT look cheap.

Dont forget the gold bags for the higher end items. The coach python tote from 2 years ago came in a gold bag as did the matching shoes.

photoobsessive · Feb 10th, 2007, 01:48 PM

this needs to stay at the top, not be commented on and be the FANTASTIC reference that it is without any hub-bub to interfere with it.

great job girlie! i love it!

Jennn · Feb 10th, 2007, 07:41 PM

Thanks, great tips!

kallison · Feb 12th, 2007, 01:13 PM

just bumping this up...hmm, wonder why a mod didn't sticky this for me?

Hyacinth · Feb 12th, 2007, 04:19 PM

Just a quick addition to this, if it's ok:
"Second, as a generality, all-leather bags are not faked. They just are not cost efficient for the fakers. And you can usually tell real leather and the fake stuff when it’s on the entire bag (as opposed to trims, etc)."

Many of the older leather bags were faked. Counterfeit leather bags made before Coach switched production to China are often found on eBay. They almost always will have incorrect or even nonexistant serial numbers, incorrect hardware, thin flimsy straps and misspellings or other mistakes in the creed stamp. The counterfeiters tended to use the same serial numbers over and over and there's a post at Ebay's Shoes Purses and Accessories forum that lists the most common fake numbers.

Some fakes were surprisingly well-made and most of those came from Korea, but ANY bag marked Made In Korea is fake.

Here's where to find the post:
eBay Forums: Fake Coach items, serial number NT-4903 ...

and here's a copy of Daria48's list - remember, always check the serial number! If you're interested in an older bag just post the auction number or link on the Authenticate This thread and I'll be glad to take a look at it.
..............

"Here are the most common ones so far on the older bags, and some of these numbers are appearing on fake Signature bags too:

NT-4903
NT-4908
TN-9085
7H-7456
NT-4115
TN-9096
TN-9951
4C-9911
40-8624
TN-4186
NT-4157
TN-4136

ANY Coach bag with only two letters or one number and one letter to the left of the hyphen can be assumed to be fake.

501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, etc., followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea".
Coach never made bags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 or 6 digits like this:
"xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers

H4B-0516

H4B-0678

H4B-0517

H4B-0520

H4B-0532

Probably ANY serial number beginning with H4B is fake except for a Scooter Bag H4B-9893

012-3445

A2G-6094

M4N-4154
Anything starting with M4N is suspect.

There is at least a 95 percent chance that bags with this number are fake:
308-9875

There are some ending in -9927 but aren't Willis Bags

And the counterfeiters are using many legitimate-looking serial numbers but on the wrong style bags.

Check EVERY bag that you buy or sell carefully! Double-check the serial number against others listed for sale. And report the fakes to eBay."

kallison · Feb 12th, 2007, 04:27 PM

yes, thank you for that addition! i knew i was forgetting something!

superstar · Feb 12th, 2007, 05:17 PM

WOW! that's alot of info.

Hyacinth · Feb 14th, 2007, 03:13 PM

We can add DK-8674 to the list of fake numbers on older bags.

KymAnn · Feb 14th, 2007, 03:44 PM

Thank you for putting all this helpful information together!! It's very appreciated!

reddianasaur · Feb 20th, 2007, 07:21 PM

Hope the counterfiters aren't reading this!!

court811 · Feb 21st, 2007, 08:55 AM

a couple more things I always see that screams fake!

1. handles wrapped in plastic, Coach never does this!

2. Patchwork only on one side of the bag with either solid or signature on the other. All Coach Patchworks are consistent on both sides (the bottom and sides may be solid, but both sides are the same

Hope this helps someone, I hate fakes!!! I saw some poor buyer win a horrible fake patchwork on eBay for $380 the other day, I reported it twice to ebay, but nothing happened.

Feb 10th, 2007, 12:11 AM	#17
krispin41 I love lamp. Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Do you know the way to San Jose? Posts: 3,805	Kallison you rock! Did they make you a MOD? __________________ Kristan in CA Visit my collection! http://forum.purseblog.com/your-bag-...ion-78327.html (Updated: 06/23/08 on page 12)

Feb 10th, 2007, 12:14 AM	#18
kallison wake up.you're alive Joined: Sep 2006 Location: houston Posts: 8,898	^ha, not a mod! whatever happened with that?! __________________ [no one's giving up quite yet, we've got too much to lose.] [love is a revolution.]

Feb 12th, 2007, 01:13 PM	#23
kallison wake up.you're alive Joined: Sep 2006 Location: houston Posts: 8,898	just bumping this up...hmm, wonder why a mod didn't sticky this for me? __________________ [no one's giving up quite yet, we've got too much to lose.] [love is a revolution.]

Feb 12th, 2007, 04:19 PM	#24
Hyacinth Member Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,377	Just a quick addition to this, if it's ok: "Second, as a generality, all-leather bags are not faked. They just are not cost efficient for the fakers. And you can usually tell real leather and the fake stuff when it’s on the entire bag (as opposed to trims, etc)." Many of the older leather bags were faked. Counterfeit leather bags made before Coach switched production to China are often found on eBay. They almost always will have incorrect or even nonexistant serial numbers, incorrect hardware, thin flimsy straps and misspellings or other mistakes in the creed stamp. The counterfeiters tended to use the same serial numbers over and over and there's a post at Ebay's Shoes Purses and Accessories forum that lists the most common fake numbers. Some fakes were surprisingly well-made and most of those came from Korea, but ANY bag marked Made In Korea is fake. Here's where to find the post: eBay Forums: Fake Coach items, serial number NT-4903 ... and here's a copy of Daria48's list - remember, always check the serial number! If you're interested in an older bag just post the auction number or link on the Authenticate This thread and I'll be glad to take a look at it. .............. "Here are the most common ones so far on the older bags, and some of these numbers are appearing on fake Signature bags too: NT-4903 NT-4908 TN-9085 7H-7456 NT-4115 TN-9096 TN-9951 4C-9911 40-8624 TN-4186 NT-4157 TN-4136 ANY Coach bag with only two letters or one number and one letter to the left of the hyphen can be assumed to be fake. 501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, etc., followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea". Coach never made bags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 or 6 digits like this: "xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers H4B-0516 H4B-0678 H4B-0517 H4B-0520 H4B-0532 Probably ANY serial number beginning with H4B is fake except for a Scooter Bag H4B-9893 012-3445 A2G-6094 M4N-4154 Anything starting with M4N is suspect. There is at least a 95 percent chance that bags with this number are fake: 308-9875 There are some ending in -9927 but aren't Willis Bags And the counterfeiters are using many legitimate-looking serial numbers but on the wrong style bags. Check EVERY bag that you buy or sell carefully! Double-check the serial number against others listed for sale. And report the fakes to eBay." Last edited by Hyacinth; Feb 12th, 2007 at 04:21 PM.

Feb 12th, 2007, 04:27 PM	#25
kallison wake up.you're alive Joined: Sep 2006 Location: houston Posts: 8,898	yes, thank you for that addition! i knew i was forgetting something! __________________ [no one's giving up quite yet, we've got too much to lose.] [love is a revolution.]

Feb 9th, 2007, 11:10 PM	#16
Parus Member Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 71	Thanks kallison! As a newbie, it's hard to glean these little bits from so many different places. Hopefully it will soon be accessible to everyone!

Feb 10th, 2007, 12:27 AM	#19
batgirl0711 Sofa King Banned Joined: Jul 2006 Location: PVD/Central Cali Posts: 3,589	i thought we expressed our interest in having you and aarti as mods.....maybe megs, vlad, and the other mods got busy.

Feb 10th, 2007, 01:48 PM	#21
photoobsessive hold me back, girls Joined: Oct 2006 Location: "Sunny Sunny" So Fla Posts: 7,965	this needs to stay at the top, not be commented on and be the FANTASTIC reference that it is without any hub-bub to interfere with it. great job girlie! i love it!

Feb 10th, 2007, 07:41 PM	#22
Jennn i want it ALL! Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 787	Thanks, great tips!

Feb 12th, 2007, 05:17 PM	#26
superstar I Love You Mommy Joined: Oct 2006 Location: California Posts: 10,625	WOW! that's alot of info. __________________

Feb 14th, 2007, 03:13 PM	#27
Hyacinth Member Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,377	We can add DK-8674 to the list of fake numbers on older bags.

Feb 14th, 2007, 03:44 PM	#28
KymAnn Member Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 659	Thank you for putting all this helpful information together!! It's very appreciated!

Feb 20th, 2007, 07:21 PM	#29
reddianasaur Sofa King Banned Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Roak Land Posts: 1,472	Hope the counterfiters aren't reading this!!

Feb 21st, 2007, 08:55 AM	#30
court811 Member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,098	a couple more things I always see that screams fake! 1. handles wrapped in plastic, Coach never does this! 2. Patchwork only on one side of the bag with either solid or signature on the other. All Coach Patchworks are consistent on both sides (the bottom and sides may be solid, but both sides are the same Hope this helps someone, I hate fakes!!! I saw some poor buyer win a horrible fake patchwork on eBay for $380 the other day, I reported it twice to ebay, but nothing happened.