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Baggiana · Jun 26th, 2009, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by annie9999

i can totally relate to these feelings. i feel i spent a lot of money trying to buy the perfect bag for me. i now realize there is no one perfect bag and i can love and appreciate a lot of bags but not have to own them. i wrote down my definite criteria and started the 24 hour rule. i now never buy on impulse. i must see the bag and leave.
i am really trying to be satisfied with what i have. it sounds so silly writing this because i have so many beautiful bags. i never went into debt to buy bags but i now have so much more disposable income.

Oh, I like your approach, annie! - and blueiris'! - and doloresmia's! At the moment I feel satiated after the sale. I have segmented my wardrobe into colorways, and occassions. I have bags to cover all. I know that the cabat will be one of my next... but I am waiting until I see just the right one. I am not near a boutique, so it is difficult to try the 24 hour rule... but seeing it IRL and walking away to think just seems so right... as does only buying where I can return if I am not thrilled. Wonderful advice!!! - thanks!

Baggiana · Jun 27th, 2009, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by noddanard

Now I want to get the one I sold back.

I just sent you a PM about the one that got away...

realbuyerhub · Jun 28th, 2009, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by jburgh

OK - got a question...
I've been reading the Introduce Yourself thread (welcome!). What is the difference between Hong Kong Dim Sum and Cantonese Dim Sum...ingredient-wise?

jburgh - In my opinion... They are the same actually. Hong Kong is a cantonese dialect dominated country. So some call it Hong Kong Tim Sum and some call it Cantonese Tim Sum. The similarity is like the word 'prawn' and 'shrimp'.

LT - I hope you are getting better dear.

jburgh · Jun 28th, 2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by realbuyerhub

jburgh - In my opinion... They are the same actually. Hong Kong is a cantonese dialect dominated country. So some call it Hong Kong Tim Sum and some call it Cantonese Tim Sum. The similarity is like the word 'prawn' and 'shrimp'.

LT - I hope you are getting better dear.

realbuyerhub - I am cracking up at your example. When I moved to the Pacific Northwest from the East, I was schooled in the difference between shrimp and prawns. Oh boy, don't ever call a prawn a shrimp out here. They are very proud that they have prawns here...delicious ones, too!

realbuyerhub · Jun 28th, 2009, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by jburgh

realbuyerhub - I am cracking up at your example. When I moved to the Pacific Northwest from the East, I was schooled in the difference between shrimp and prawns. Oh boy, don't ever call a prawn a shrimp out here. They are very proud that they have prawns here...delicious ones, too!

Mid- · Jul 2nd, 2009, 08:09 PM

I've been feeling down since we dropped our son off at his very first away camp last Sunday. I miss him so much.

I know he is doing fine and it will be a great experience for him, and people say I/we should enjoy my/our own time, but I have no energy whatsoever. I guess I have to grow up more than my son.

Well, today I got a call from the NYC boutique that the reflet cabat is in, and I will go see it on Sunday. That should cheer me up a bit I hope.

Baggiana · Jul 2nd, 2009, 10:52 PM

It is hard to watch them pull away... mine is grown and gone ... thinking about getting married. How quickly the time passed - and how I miss those cubby arms extended to me, and the years of closeness and laughter. Yes, Mid, that will take the energy from you! But, if we do our job correctly, then they will be ready and free to leave the nest. It is hard because they are such a central, permanent part of our lives, and we are a temperal part of theirs.

Please let me know what you think of the reflet cabat. I am dying to know! BTW, how are you enjoying your small ebano cabat.... looks beautiful in your signiture!

LLANeedle · Jul 3rd, 2009, 05:21 AM

Mid, I can relate. Our older daughter, now almost 30, has special needs. I never dreamed of sending her away to camp yet when she was nine I heard about the most amazing camp for children with her disability and everyone (friends and professionals) encouraged me to pursue it. It was seven weeks long and far from home. I cried the entire first summer. She attended every summer after that till she turned 20. It proved to be the best experience for her and for our family. It gave me some much needed one on one time with my other daughter and some down time for me which I came to look forward to once I knew she was a happy camper.

sbelle · Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:02 AM

Speaking of camps, we are dropping my 12 year daughter at a week long leadership camp in DC on Satrurday. This is something that came up through school and she was determined to go.

I always find the differences between my two girls interesting. My older daughter would never voluntarily go to anything without making sure a friend was there. If she couldn't find someone else to go, she wouldn't go. My 12 year old could care less--she told me that she would make friends!! This is her first sleep over camp and looking back at the first time my oldest went to one, I will be the only one who has a hard time!

sbelle · Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:04 AM

BTW ladies I wanted to wish all my BV friends a wonderful, safe holiday weekend (and some wonderful holiday shopping!)

jburgh · Jul 3rd, 2009, 08:28 AM

Since I only have 4 legged children, I can only speak as a camper. Going away to girl scout camp were some of my most treasured experiences. I learned so much, ways to take care of myself without modern things. And, I'm sure that is where I developed my deep appreciation of nature...the bugs, the birds, plants and smells. Thinking about the camping trips takes me right back there. I can still remember the songs, too. Good times.

Mid- · Jul 3rd, 2009, 09:46 AM

Baggiana, LLANeedle, ssc0619, and jburgh, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. You are helping me a great deal.

Baggiana, you are so right about how central and permanent they are to us while temporal we are for them. My head understands all the rationale, but all the other parts of me just don't, just won't, and I'm still crying here.

LLANeedle, you have all my respect. How brave and wonderful you are to have sent your then 9 year old to a 7 week far away camp! My son's is also far but 2 weeks, with the option of extending 2 more weeks if he wishes and we agree, which is an additional torture for me.

ssc0619, hope your daughter has a great experience at her leadership camp. My son is somewhat between your two daughters. He is sociable and friendly and makes friends quite easily, but when the camp offered to put him in the same cabin with two kids whom he's known very well, he looked so relieved. (They don't usually put more than two kids who already know each other well in a same cabin so others won't feel left out.)

jburgh, it's nice to hear a camper's side story, as we don't really have "camp" like here where I grew up, and my "away camp" at young age were two nights long the longest, which I went quite often and fully enjoyed. I know he is learning a lot there that he won't here otherwise. I just wish I could see him learning, laughing, challenging, etc. with my eyes.

goldenflower · Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:43 PM

Mid- , I feel for you. I was the same way when my kids went off to camp. I had a very hard time my own first summer camp session (I actually chased my mother's car through the parking lot as she was leaving after a mid-week visitor's day!) and I think I worried so much about my own kids being homesick, etc. Every single one of them had a great time, even though they probably were homesick for a short time. I am very sentimental, and transitions are hard for me. I remember when my youngest daugther started kindergarten. I drove home, crying the entire way, and for weeks I was just sad. Time passes so quickly and I really miss those childhood moments with my young children, but as baggiana says, it helps to remember that it's our job to raise our children to be self-sufficient so that when the inevitable day comes when they leave, they'll be ready. All of that is/was very bittersweet for me. I'm always proud of my children's accomplishments even if it means they are not as close (physically or emotionally) but there is still always a measure of sadness that all of those sweet childhood years have forever passed.

I'll be interested to hear what you think of the reflect Cabat! I have one here at the moment and I just love it. Its subtle nuances of color are just amazing. But ... I'm making myself send it back. If I felt like I would get enough use out of it, I would keep it, because it's totally beautiful. The sheen in brighter light (sunshine, etc.) is just a little too much for my very casual lifestyle and the color, while subtle, reads as purple rather than more neutral like I'd hoped. I bought three new bags during the sale, and I knew I also wanted the tornabuoni Veneta this fall (which I just got - love it!) and that brings me to nine BV bags - more than I wanted to own (but I've got zero willpower sometimes!) I've decided that any new bag has to be very versatile and not something that goes only with certain clothing or looks. But it's sooooo hard to say good-bye to the reflect Cabat - wait till you see it! It's just stunning.

LLANeedle, my sister sends her special-needs child to camp every summer and she too had a miserable time the first year with missing him. But as you said, once it became clear how much he liked going, it became easier for her to let him go and he has gone every summer since. It has never been an option for our special-needs son but I'm so glad it is available for other children!

ssc0619, one of my daughters went to the leadership camp in D.C., too, at about the same age as your daughter. She thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm sure that your daughter will, too!

jburgh, I still remember many of the camp songs, too! "Gee Mom, I wanna go, but they won't let me go, gee Mom, I wanna go home!" Ha ha! I have wonderful memories of my summer camp sessions, even the first one where I got so homesick.

For our American tPFers, wishing you all a happy and safe Fourth of July!

LLANeedle · Jul 3rd, 2009, 03:30 PM

Goldenflower, what color tornabouni did you get? Do you think it's rough against clothing? Is it much heavier than a regular veneta?

goldenflower · Jul 3rd, 2009, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by LLANeedle

Goldenflower, what color tornabouni did you get? Do you think it's rough against clothing? Is it much heavier than a regular veneta?

I got nero. The large comes only in bramble and nero, and bramble, while a nice enough color, seemed too close to tea to me. I already have a large tea campana. It doesn't seem very rough to me and I'm really not worried about snagging my clothing. It does seem a little heavier than the regular Veneta, but not a lot. It is definitely stiffer. I'm assuming it will soften up with use. If it would help, I can weigh it and compare it with a regular large Veneta - just let me know if you'd like me to do that. I really like it a lot. It's my fifth Veneta (oy!) so I wanted something different.

Jul 2nd, 2009, 08:09 PM	#1941
Mid- ありがとう Joined: Mar 2007 Location: in the suede lined elevator Posts: 4,118	I've been feeling down since we dropped our son off at his very first away camp last Sunday. I miss him so much. I know he is doing fine and it will be a great experience for him, and people say I/we should enjoy my/our own time, but I have no energy whatsoever. I guess I have to grow up more than my son. Well, today I got a call from the NYC boutique that the reflet cabat is in, and I will go see it on Sunday. That should cheer me up a bit I hope.
	__________________ ~ I prefer to have very little, but it has to be exactly the right thing. ~ Tomas Maier Radio Lab

Jul 2nd, 2009, 10:52 PM	#1942
Baggiana Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,222	It is hard to watch them pull away... mine is grown and gone ... thinking about getting married. How quickly the time passed - and how I miss those cubby arms extended to me, and the years of closeness and laughter. Yes, Mid, that will take the energy from you! But, if we do our job correctly, then they will be ready and free to leave the nest. It is hard because they are such a central, permanent part of our lives, and we are a temperal part of theirs. Please let me know what you think of the reflet cabat. I am dying to know! BTW, how are you enjoying your small ebano cabat.... looks beautiful in your signiture!
Baggiana Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,222	__________________

Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:02 AM	#1944
sbelle Jack's the Man Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 8,528	Speaking of camps, we are dropping my 12 year daughter at a week long leadership camp in DC on Satrurday. This is something that came up through school and she was determined to go. I always find the differences between my two girls interesting. My older daughter would never voluntarily go to anything without making sure a friend was there. If she couldn't find someone else to go, she wouldn't go. My 12 year old could care less--she told me that she would make friends!! This is her first sleep over camp and looking back at the first time my oldest went to one, I will be the only one who has a hard time!
sbelle Jack's the Man Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 8,528

Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:04 AM	#1945
sbelle Jack's the Man Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 8,528	BTW ladies I wanted to wish all my BV friends a wonderful, safe holiday weekend (and some wonderful holiday shopping!)
sbelle Jack's the Man Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 8,528

Jul 3rd, 2009, 08:28 AM	#1946
jburgh OP BV, Choo, Ferragamo Joined: Aug 2007 Location: where Corgis frap Posts: 8,381	Since I only have 4 legged children, I can only speak as a camper. Going away to girl scout camp were some of my most treasured experiences. I learned so much, ways to take care of myself without modern things. And, I'm sure that is where I developed my deep appreciation of nature...the bugs, the birds, plants and smells. Thinking about the camping trips takes me right back there. I can still remember the songs, too. Good times.
	__________________ Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Jul 3rd, 2009, 05:21 AM	#1943
LLANeedle Member Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,657	Mid, I can relate. Our older daughter, now almost 30, has special needs. I never dreamed of sending her away to camp yet when she was nine I heard about the most amazing camp for children with her disability and everyone (friends and professionals) encouraged me to pursue it. It was seven weeks long and far from home. I cried the entire first summer. She attended every summer after that till she turned 20. It proved to be the best experience for her and for our family. It gave me some much needed one on one time with my other daughter and some down time for me which I came to look forward to once I knew she was a happy camper.

Jul 3rd, 2009, 09:46 AM	#1947
Mid- ありがとう Joined: Mar 2007 Location: in the suede lined elevator Posts: 4,118	Baggiana, LLANeedle, ssc0619, and jburgh, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. You are helping me a great deal. Baggiana, you are so right about how central and permanent they are to us while temporal we are for them. My head understands all the rationale, but all the other parts of me just don't, just won't, and I'm still crying here. LLANeedle, you have all my respect. How brave and wonderful you are to have sent your then 9 year old to a 7 week far away camp! My son's is also far but 2 weeks, with the option of extending 2 more weeks if he wishes and we agree, which is an additional torture for me. ssc0619, hope your daughter has a great experience at her leadership camp. My son is somewhat between your two daughters. He is sociable and friendly and makes friends quite easily, but when the camp offered to put him in the same cabin with two kids whom he's known very well, he looked so relieved. (They don't usually put more than two kids who already know each other well in a same cabin so others won't feel left out.) jburgh, it's nice to hear a camper's side story, as we don't really have "camp" like here where I grew up, and my "away camp" at young age were two nights long the longest, which I went quite often and fully enjoyed. I know he is learning a lot there that he won't here otherwise. I just wish I could see him learning, laughing, challenging, etc. with my eyes.
	__________________ ~ I prefer to have very little, but it has to be exactly the right thing. ~ Tomas Maier Radio Lab

Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:43 PM	#1948
goldenflower Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,496	Mid- , I feel for you. I was the same way when my kids went off to camp. I had a very hard time my own first summer camp session (I actually chased my mother's car through the parking lot as she was leaving after a mid-week visitor's day!) and I think I worried so much about my own kids being homesick, etc. Every single one of them had a great time, even though they probably were homesick for a short time. I am very sentimental, and transitions are hard for me. I remember when my youngest daugther started kindergarten. I drove home, crying the entire way, and for weeks I was just sad. Time passes so quickly and I really miss those childhood moments with my young children, but as baggiana says, it helps to remember that it's our job to raise our children to be self-sufficient so that when the inevitable day comes when they leave, they'll be ready. All of that is/was very bittersweet for me. I'm always proud of my children's accomplishments even if it means they are not as close (physically or emotionally) but there is still always a measure of sadness that all of those sweet childhood years have forever passed. I'll be interested to hear what you think of the reflect Cabat! I have one here at the moment and I just love it. Its subtle nuances of color are just amazing. But ... I'm making myself send it back. If I felt like I would get enough use out of it, I would keep it, because it's totally beautiful. The sheen in brighter light (sunshine, etc.) is just a little too much for my very casual lifestyle and the color, while subtle, reads as purple rather than more neutral like I'd hoped. I bought three new bags during the sale, and I knew I also wanted the tornabuoni Veneta this fall (which I just got - love it!) and that brings me to nine BV bags - more than I wanted to own (but I've got zero willpower sometimes!) I've decided that any new bag has to be very versatile and not something that goes only with certain clothing or looks. But it's sooooo hard to say good-bye to the reflect Cabat - wait till you see it! It's just stunning. LLANeedle, my sister sends her special-needs child to camp every summer and she too had a miserable time the first year with missing him. But as you said, once it became clear how much he liked going, it became easier for her to let him go and he has gone every summer since. It has never been an option for our special-needs son but I'm so glad it is available for other children! ssc0619, one of my daughters went to the leadership camp in D.C., too, at about the same age as your daughter. She thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm sure that your daughter will, too! jburgh, I still remember many of the camp songs, too! "Gee Mom, I wanna go, but they won't let me go, gee Mom, I wanna go home!" Ha ha! I have wonderful memories of my summer camp sessions, even the first one where I got so homesick. For our American tPFers, wishing you all a happy and safe Fourth of July!
goldenflower Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,496	__________________ Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten. Last edited by goldenflower; Jul 3rd, 2009 at 02:47 PM.

Jul 3rd, 2009, 03:30 PM	#1949
LLANeedle Member Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,657	Goldenflower, what color tornabouni did you get? Do you think it's rough against clothing? Is it much heavier than a regular veneta?

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