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Old Dec 20th, 2006, 12:08 PM   #16
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Im loving the laptop-breif case. Wow!
I am getting a breif case for my law school graduationg and this one is one of my favorite options!
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Old Dec 20th, 2006, 03:05 PM   #17
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Yeah, I like it! I can feel the creative urge upon me... But I'm getting sideways glances from "Santa's Helpers" in my despatch department, as it's all-hands-on-deck today to get our Christmas deliveries out... and that includes me!
So I'll have to come back to you a little later on the above...
Glad you liked the Paris Purse by the way
of course, no worries!
and speaking of the paris purse, do you have any after-christmas sales planned?
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Old Dec 20th, 2006, 06:36 PM   #18
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Im loving the laptop-breif case. Wow!
I am getting a breif case for my law school graduationg and this one is one of my favorite options!
Hey, Lolley.. very glad you like the keep-It-Brief bag! In case you haven't seen it, here's the whole story behind it on my Designer's Diary.

(Someone tell me if I'm getting boring... I'm just chuffed to be here!).
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Old Dec 20th, 2006, 06:46 PM   #19
 
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Judy- we love having you here!!! It is great to have you answer questions about your designs
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Old Dec 21st, 2006, 07:22 AM   #20
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ooh now the long english and paris purses I do love. I adore the clasp idea. i've never seen anything like it! (I just checked out Bown website). The whole collection reminds me of an english summer...but preppy and somewhat vintage. All the leathers you use are so soft looking. Judy, how do you go about choosing materials?
This is so fun having a designer on here (sorry I am really going on now!)
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Old Dec 21st, 2006, 10:55 AM   #21
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Hey, Lolley.. very glad you like the keep-It-Brief bag! In case you haven't seen it, here's the whole story behind it on my Designer's Diary.

(Someone tell me if I'm getting boring... I'm just chuffed to be here!).


i NEED A SHOULDER STRAP THOUGH!
tHE HANDLES LOOK SHORT FOR MY SHOULDERS?!
WHAT DO U THINK:?
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Old Dec 22nd, 2006, 09:51 AM   #22
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oooh, that would be hot. the sputnik kind of has a ring to it, non?

how do you come up with a design for a bag? do you start with an idea of a size or shape you like and go from there? do you choose the leather depending on the design, or do you start with a type of leather you want to use?
All of those... and all at once!!
Before you can design anything with confidence, you really have to know leather and how it performs before choosing it, how it reacts to certain construction methods and also what you can physically get out of a hide.
People often forget that each skin of leather is unique and a strange shape that has to be expertly cut to get the best panels to stitch. It's not on a roll like fabric! And each reacts differently, depending on:
which type of animal (eg bull or goat or croc or calf etc),
which part of the hide is used (bellies are softer, stretchier, shoulders are harder, thicker)
where its from geographically and climatically(eg scandinavia or india), how old it is (eg calf=smooth, thinner, or bull=heavier, more robust),
how well it has been reared (barbed wire fences, nutrition, pests etc),
how the hides were cured, how far they have travelled before being tanned, I could go on...!

You really rely on the tannery to supply to your standards, so you need to choose your supplier with care. Good leather is really expensive, and you can go so wrong if you try and get it to do something it doesn't want to.

You also need to choose the 'attitude' of the collection, and marry your leathers with the styles you want.
For my first collection I chose a relaxed, travel-oriented story as my starting point..I particularly like easy pieces that are more about about effortless style, and less about trying hard to be the latest "It bag".
There's so many handbag brands investing huge amounts into marketing, advertising and celebrity endorsment etc... I don't want to compete in that area, but prefer to find a niche.. those on a 'journey of discovery' for something a bit different.
So, I decided to do something less about here-today-gone-tomorrow fashion, and more about a lasting investment.

With that overall 'theme' amd focus, I then looked at the sort of styles I felt would suit the relaxed but chic 'attitude' I was after, and that would fill certain needs for a modern lifestyle. Unfussy totes, that you can use for the weekend, or for work, or for your baby gear etc.. an overnight bag that fits into the overhead locker perfectly and makes you feel good carrying it, beautiful wallets and accessories that add a little bit of luxury to the things we all do everyday etc...
I knew I wanted a softer, less formal silhoutte to the collection, but still something that suited both casual or smarter looks.
The hardware (metal fittings) needs to be designed early on as it takes the longest to develop. I designed understated but high quality pieces to add focus and individuality. I only like using hardware where it actually serves a purpose, so they are functional too.
Less is more, and all that!

Finally, you do a lot of range planning... and tweaking designs to make sure things fit and carry well, that the design is balanced, literally and visually. A simple looking style actually needs higher quality materials and a lot of tweaking to get it looking perfect.

At the end of the day, you are designing for your customer, so you really have to get to know them and what makes them happy!
A bag might have huge shelf/photo appeal, but if that customer finds it awkward or uncomfortable to use and it doesn't feel lovely, OR it doesn't make them feel sexy, or classy, or whatever they want to project to the world about themselves, then it isn't going to be a success, however much a designer might believe in it.

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Old Dec 22nd, 2006, 09:56 AM   #23
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ooh now the long english and paris purses I do love. I adore the clasp idea. i've never seen anything like it! (I just checked out Bown website). The whole collection reminds me of an english summer...but preppy and somewhat vintage. All the leathers you use are so soft looking. Judy, how do you go about choosing materials?
This is so fun having a designer on here (sorry I am really going on now!)
Thanks Yves,... I hope my "War and Peace" post above has answered your question!
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Old Dec 22nd, 2006, 10:09 AM   #24
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i NEED A SHOULDER STRAP THOUGH!
tHE HANDLES LOOK SHORT FOR MY SHOULDERS?!
WHAT DO U THINK:?
You're right, Lolley, this is designed to be hand-held and won't fit over your shoulder. Sorry it's not what you're after.

I'm not a big fan of shoulder straps on laptop bags, or overnight bags for that matter.
Laptops are heavy, and the shoulder straps tend to pull your clothes around and are a pain to carry. Or they dangle underneath when the handles are used.
So, aesthetically, I prefer the cleaner lines, but I'm always up for an opinion!
What does everyone else think? Do you think I should add a strap, or make the handles longer in the future?
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Old Dec 23rd, 2006, 01:41 AM   #25
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You're right, Lolley, this is designed to be hand-held and won't fit over your shoulder. Sorry it's not what you're after.

What does everyone else think? Do you think I should add a strap, or make the handles longer in the future?
PS. We're talking about the laptop bag here (mentioned earlier in the thread), not the Tote!
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Old Dec 23rd, 2006, 01:55 AM   #26
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Judy- we love having you here!!! It is great to have you answer questions about your designs
Thank YOU Megs. I'm honoured.
Have you had designers on here before? I'm sure many look, but I'm wondering if any have (openly) participated?
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Old Dec 26th, 2006, 02:22 AM   #27
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You're right, Lolley, this is designed to be hand-held and won't fit over your shoulder. Sorry it's not what you're after.

I'm not a big fan of shoulder straps on laptop bags, or overnight bags for that matter.
Laptops are heavy, and the shoulder straps tend to pull your clothes around and are a pain to carry. Or they dangle underneath when the handles are used.
So, aesthetically, I prefer the cleaner lines, but I'm always up for an opinion!
What does everyone else think? Do you think I should add a strap, or make the handles longer in the future?

I have to say that I, personally, prefer shoulder straps, Judy.

As I mentioned on another thread, I find hand-held bags uncomfortable to carry (especially when they contain heavy items) and I end up slinging them over my shoulder (whilst still holding them in my hand!), or carrying them on my hip, like a toddler!

So, I prefer the versatility of a shoulder strap, particularly if it's long, adjustable and is, preferably, joined to the body of the bag without hardware.
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Old Dec 26th, 2006, 04:12 PM   #28
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Not my cup of tea.
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Old Dec 27th, 2006, 05:55 AM   #29
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So, I prefer the versatility of a shoulder strap, particularly if it's long, adjustable and is, preferably, joined to the body of the bag without hardware.
Hi Chloehandbags! Thanks for your feedback on the laptop bag on my website... I feel that something along the lines you're suggesting should definitely be included in the next collection...
I can't wait to get designing!
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Old Dec 27th, 2006, 06:18 AM   #30
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Not my cup of tea.
Hi misspiggy, sorry you're not pots about the (tea) bag.
I've found that the people who are not warmed by the simple styling of the totes are actually quite stirred with the wallets and purses (see earlier in the thread)...

(If you have the time and the inclination, I'd love you to have a look around the the site, where the photography gives a much better idea of the detail. There's also some history behind my approach to design on designer's diary... might persude you to try a new brew?).
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