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Cornflower Blue · May 19th, 2009, 03:28 PM

Oooh, thank you for that Hedwig! In that case I may have to check it out after all.

I'm going to start New Moon tomorrow. Truth be told when I got back today I couldn't restrain myself and launched right in! After a few pages though I noticed things weren't quite right - and I suddenly realized I'd started Eclipse by mistake!

Luckily I wasn't too far in so no harm done.

gingeybear · May 19th, 2009, 05:20 PM

Argh..I'm wiped from correcting and editing students' papers and struggling with my own. Am I the only one who walked away from the "Twilight" series after reading the first one? I can't seem to find the desire to invest my time in these characters even though I get the "escapism" part..and for sure...what's his face reminds me of James Dean at his broodiest.

I suppose it's because I have been so submerged in scholarly articles for my research that I have turned into a bit of a snob..and I'm the person who tells parents that their children should read anything they want to..as long as they're reading..and I'm the parent who got her DS an anonymous surprise of Maxim magazine..what the heck is wrong with me????

Although the Harry Potter series reminded me a bit of Tolkien..who "borrowed" most of his story from Wagner and Norse and German mythology..ack again...I need some escapism but I can't deal with chick lit..or vamp lit..or weepies...or bodice rippers...so I am limited to mysteries and thrillers at this point..and I find that some authors are reduced to formulaic..anyone read Elizabeth George???

My dear friends..I beg of you...please..I need an intervention..I want to enjoy Jodie Piccoult...I should be relishing "Twilight"...where are thou Bridget Jones??? I have I become totally anhedonic..or an intellectual snob who is not intelligent?

Cornflower Blue · May 19th, 2009, 06:03 PM

Oh Gingey, I hope you're not asking me this! My only foray with Tolkien has been an ex-boyfriend who insisted in reading him to me, and drinking at 'The Eagle and Child' in Oxford where Tolkien and CS Lewis used to meet up.

As for Harry Potter, what JK Rowling needed was a good editor, especially with the last book - I was particularly non-plussed by the last three of hers.

The thing is, there are only so many story-lines - context and circumstance are everything and that's the challenge for the author, imo. It either speaks to you or it doesn't.

I'm not too keen on crime books as they always seem to be gruesome, but I do happen to love oldies but goodies such as HG Wells, H Ryder Haggard, Arthur Conan Doyle and Agatha Christie.

Have you ever tried historical biographies? I only ask because I was completely entranced by 'Two Years Before The Mast'. I was taken by surprise tbh, I would never have thought that kind of stuff was my cup of tea, but I found it fascinating!

*suzi* · May 19th, 2009, 10:18 PM

YAY CB!!!

I'm so glad you were as smitten as I was. I have to read medical journal reprints every day so I definitely was not looking for a literary masterpiece. Plus my imagination was far better than anything that could be written.

I will probably get a thrashing for this one, but I absolutely hated the movie. It seemed like a B movie and Edward seemed like he had a constipated look on his face throughout.

*ducking for cover* The second movie should be coming out soon, and I have heard the budget was a bit bigger. So, maybe we will all agree on that one.

Jenova · May 20th, 2009, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by gingeybear

Argh..I'm wiped from correcting and editing students' papers and struggling with my own. Am I the only one who walked away from the "Twilight" series after reading the first one? I can't seem to find the desire to invest my time in these characters even though I get the "escapism" part..and for sure...what's his face reminds me of James Dean at his broodiest.

I suppose it's because I have been so submerged in scholarly articles for my research that I have turned into a bit of a snob..and I'm the person who tells parents that their children should read anything they want to..as long as they're reading..and I'm the parent who got her DS an anonymous surprise of Maxim magazine..what the heck is wrong with me????

Although the Harry Potter series reminded me a bit of Tolkien..who "borrowed" most of his story from Wagner and Norse and German mythology..ack again...I need some escapism but I can't deal with chick lit..or vamp lit..or weepies...or bodice rippers...so I am limited to mysteries and thrillers at this point..and I find that some authors are reduced to formulaic..anyone read Elizabeth George???

My dear friends..I beg of you...please..I need an intervention..I want to enjoy Jodie Piccoult...I should be relishing "Twilight"...where are thou Bridget Jones??? I have I become totally anhedonic..or an intellectual snob who is not intelligent?

DON'T MENTION harry potter books I HATE THEM!
I can't believe how much money that woman has made by ripping off old school stories and jazzing them up with a bit of magic.

Jenova · May 20th, 2009, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Cornflower Blue

My only foray with Tolkien has been an ex-boyfriend who insisted in reading him to me..........

Oh My God that must have taken years and years and years and years - was that why you had to split up?

I like Tolkien (I was badly in love with Elrond as a child) but he did tend to ramble on a bit. So did Bram Stoker - have you read Dracula?

Jenova · May 20th, 2009, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by gingeybear

Argh..I'm wiped from correcting and editing students' papers and struggling with my own. Am I the only one who walked away from the "Twilight" series after reading the first one? I can't seem to find the desire to invest my time in these characters even though I get the "escapism" part..and for sure...what's his face reminds me of James Dean at his broodiest.

I suppose it's because I have been so submerged in scholarly articles for my research that I have turned into a bit of a snob..and I'm the person who tells parents that their children should read anything they want to..as long as they're reading..and I'm the parent who got her DS an anonymous surprise of Maxim magazine..what the heck is wrong with me????

Although the Harry Potter series reminded me a bit of Tolkien..who "borrowed" most of his story from Wagner and Norse and German mythology..ack again...I need some escapism but I can't deal with chick lit..or vamp lit..or weepies...or bodice rippers...so I am limited to mysteries and thrillers at this point..and I find that some authors are reduced to formulaic..anyone read Elizabeth George???

My dear friends..I beg of you...please..I need an intervention..I want to enjoy Jodie Piccoult...I should be relishing "Twilight"...where are thou Bridget Jones??? I have I become totally anhedonic..or an intellectual snob who is not intelligent?

What is the theme of your research? (I must admit to cringing a bit at the sound of that term as I have only recently escaped working for a university where 'research' is of course translated as 'income'.)

Jenova · May 20th, 2009, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by *suzi*

YAY CB!!!

I'm so glad you were as smitten as I was. I have to read medical journal reprints every day so I definitely was not looking for a literary masterpiece. Plus my imagination was far better than anything that could be written.

I will probably get a thrashing for this one, but I absolutely hated the movie. It seemed like a B movie and Edward seemed like he had a constipated look on his face throughout.

*ducking for cover* The second movie should be coming out soon, and I have heard the budget was a bit bigger. So, maybe we will all agree on that one.

Have you seen Star Trek and, if so, is it any good?

ali1 · May 20th, 2009, 03:33 AM

Hi all, I hope you don't mind me jumping into this conversation, but I couldn't help myself. :) I've skimmed the past few pages, so I hope I'm not reiterating anything too much.

First off, Jenova, Star Trek is amazing! I had no previous knowledge of the Star Trek universe and am not particularly entranced by Sci-Fi/Fantasy, but the screenplay is just so well-written that I was easily introduced to the Trek universe. I think it did a really good job of satisfying hard-core Trek fans and the newbies like me. I would not have entered the theatre if not for the amazing reviews, so I have to pay it forward and tell you that you should definitely go see it. At its core, it is a well-made movie with a brilliantly written script and a smart story... (and cute actors...Chris Pine...

)

Secondly, the Twilight series. It is entertaining fiction. I read the series on the recommendation of a friend. Honestly though, I'm not a big fan of the first book and I took a break before picking up the rest of the series. IMO, books 2-4 were better written and better edited than the first. The movie, Twilight, followed the novel very closely and was quite simply, cheesy. The acting? Not the best. And lines that could have passed w/o comment on the page were ludicrous when spoken by unconvincing actors. I have high hopes for the 2nd movie however, since a more experienced director and a greater budget is involved.

*suzi* · May 20th, 2009, 08:08 AM

Jenova - I haven't seen it yet, but that was a great review by ali1!

My DH will not sit through a movie, so I guess I'll have to convince the girlfriends that there are cute men in this one if I want to see it.

Hedwig · May 20th, 2009, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by Jenova

DON'T MENTION harry potter books I HATE THEM!
I can't believe how much money that woman has made by ripping off old school stories and jazzing them up with a bit of magic.

I have read all the books and liked them while reading but there has to be something odd about the books because afterwards I cannot remember the books correctly and now it all seems very blurry to me. My husband feels the same so I am not the only one.

Tolkien I love as well as Dracula by Bram Stoker. I read when I was about 15, but still remember it quite well (unlike the Harry Potters).

Cornflower Blue · May 21st, 2009, 03:24 PM

I'm afraid that over the past few days I've had a severe case of Twilightitis.

In fact I have been so voracious that I seem to finished the whole series....

Jenova · May 21st, 2009, 03:27 PM

Have you Been Human yet?

Cornflower Blue · May 21st, 2009, 03:42 PM

Not yet - I have been consumed in reading. Let's just say that DH and DS were lucky to get dinner last night!

Have got the DVD though. Won't be tonight as I'm preparing myself for Bones and Lie to Me. I reckon it'll be at the weekend. I am looking forward to it.

Jenova · May 21st, 2009, 03:49 PM

If you ever start reading Laurell K Hamilton, I plead with you to restrain yourself strictly to buying her earlier books.

May 19th, 2009, 03:28 PM	#166
Cornflower Blue Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,329	Oooh, thank you for that Hedwig! In that case I may have to check it out after all. I'm going to start New Moon tomorrow. Truth be told when I got back today I couldn't restrain myself and launched right in! After a few pages though I noticed things weren't quite right - and I suddenly realized I'd started Eclipse by mistake! Luckily I wasn't too far in so no harm done.
Cornflower Blue Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,329

May 19th, 2009, 05:20 PM	#167
gingeybear Oh woe is me! Joined: Oct 2008 Location: In HH rehab! Posts: 4,499	Argh..I'm wiped from correcting and editing students' papers and struggling with my own. Am I the only one who walked away from the "Twilight" series after reading the first one? I can't seem to find the desire to invest my time in these characters even though I get the "escapism" part..and for sure...what's his face reminds me of James Dean at his broodiest. I suppose it's because I have been so submerged in scholarly articles for my research that I have turned into a bit of a snob..and I'm the person who tells parents that their children should read anything they want to..as long as they're reading..and I'm the parent who got her DS an anonymous surprise of Maxim magazine..what the heck is wrong with me???? Although the Harry Potter series reminded me a bit of Tolkien..who "borrowed" most of his story from Wagner and Norse and German mythology..ack again...I need some escapism but I can't deal with chick lit..or vamp lit..or weepies...or bodice rippers...so I am limited to mysteries and thrillers at this point..and I find that some authors are reduced to formulaic..anyone read Elizabeth George??? My dear friends..I beg of you...please..I need an intervention..I want to enjoy Jodie Piccoult...I should be relishing "Twilight"...where are thou Bridget Jones??? I have I become totally anhedonic..or an intellectual snob who is not intelligent?
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May 19th, 2009, 06:03 PM	#168
Cornflower Blue Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,329	Oh Gingey, I hope you're not asking me this! My only foray with Tolkien has been an ex-boyfriend who insisted in reading him to me, and drinking at 'The Eagle and Child' in Oxford where Tolkien and CS Lewis used to meet up. As for Harry Potter, what JK Rowling needed was a good editor, especially with the last book - I was particularly non-plussed by the last three of hers. The thing is, there are only so many story-lines - context and circumstance are everything and that's the challenge for the author, imo. It either speaks to you or it doesn't. I'm not too keen on crime books as they always seem to be gruesome, but I do happen to love oldies but goodies such as HG Wells, H Ryder Haggard, Arthur Conan Doyle and Agatha Christie. Have you ever tried historical biographies? I only ask because I was completely entranced by 'Two Years Before The Mast'. I was taken by surprise tbh, I would never have thought that kind of stuff was my cup of tea, but I found it fascinating!
Cornflower Blue Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,329	Last edited by Cornflower Blue; May 19th, 2009 at 06:07 PM.

May 19th, 2009, 10:18 PM	#169
suzi BE Mod Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,841	YAY CB!!! I'm so glad you were as smitten as I was. I have to read medical journal reprints every day so I definitely was not looking for a literary masterpiece. Plus my imagination was far better than anything that could be written. I will probably get a thrashing for this one, but I absolutely hated the movie. It seemed like a B movie and Edward seemed like he had a constipated look on his face throughout. ducking for cover The second movie should be coming out soon, and I have heard the budget was a bit bigger. So, maybe we will all agree on that one.
suzi BE Mod Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,841

May 20th, 2009, 03:33 AM	#174
ali1 Member Joined: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 243	Hi all, I hope you don't mind me jumping into this conversation, but I couldn't help myself. :) I've skimmed the past few pages, so I hope I'm not reiterating anything too much. First off, Jenova, Star Trek is amazing! I had no previous knowledge of the Star Trek universe and am not particularly entranced by Sci-Fi/Fantasy, but the screenplay is just so well-written that I was easily introduced to the Trek universe. I think it did a really good job of satisfying hard-core Trek fans and the newbies like me. I would not have entered the theatre if not for the amazing reviews, so I have to pay it forward and tell you that you should definitely go see it. At its core, it is a well-made movie with a brilliantly written script and a smart story... (and cute actors...Chris Pine...) Secondly, the Twilight series. It is entertaining fiction. I read the series on the recommendation of a friend. Honestly though, I'm not a big fan of the first book and I took a break before picking up the rest of the series. IMO, books 2-4 were better written and better edited than the first. The movie, Twilight, followed the novel very closely and was quite simply, cheesy. The acting? Not the best. And lines that could have passed w/o comment on the page were ludicrous when spoken by unconvincing actors. I have high hopes for the 2nd movie however, since a more experienced director and a greater budget is involved.
ali1 Member Joined: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 243

May 20th, 2009, 08:08 AM	#175
suzi BE Mod Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,841	Jenova - I haven't seen it yet, but that was a great review by ali1! My DH will not sit through a movie, so I guess I'll have to convince the girlfriends that there are cute men in this one if I want to see it.
suzi BE Mod Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,841

May 21st, 2009, 03:24 PM	#177
Cornflower Blue Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,329	I'm afraid that over the past few days I've had a severe case of Twilightitis. In fact I have been so voracious that I seem to finished the whole series....
Cornflower Blue Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,329

May 21st, 2009, 03:27 PM	#178
Jenova Member Joined: Jul 2007 Location: UK Posts: 11,010	Have you Been Human yet?

May 21st, 2009, 03:42 PM	#179
Cornflower Blue Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,329	Not yet - I have been consumed in reading. Let's just say that DH and DS were lucky to get dinner last night! Have got the DVD though. Won't be tonight as I'm preparing myself for Bones and Lie to Me. I reckon it'll be at the weekend. I am looking forward to it.
Cornflower Blue Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,329

May 21st, 2009, 03:49 PM	#180
Jenova Member Joined: Jul 2007 Location: UK Posts: 11,010	If you ever start reading Laurell K Hamilton, I plead with you to restrain yourself strictly to buying her earlier books.

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