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Old Jul 4th, 2009, 08:37 PM   #106
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Originally Posted by Jenova View Post
If anyone has a Pewter Crash swatch they could run some experiments on it using sun tan lotion, a hairdryer and a domestic iron (through paper). I am not that keen to attack my own strap, even if I do have another one.
I don't have a swatch but am considering sacrificing one of my pewter BE tags for this experiment. If if find myself unable to perform this sacrilege then maybe BE headquarters would be better off trying this themselves and getting back to us?
Actually I have several other swatches I can try this on but they aren't pewter...
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Old Jul 4th, 2009, 10:40 PM   #107
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Hi Ldies! Happy 4th of July for those of you in the US!
Anyway - just wanted to post that DH and I played 36 holes of golf today -
It was hot and muggy out - had to wear sunscreen. Sometime early in the day, the sunscreen leaked in my golf bag....anyway, it ate through the stitching in the pocket it had been in. I'd like to know what's in sunscreen....its nasty stuff!!
Needless to say, I just ordered a new golf bag online this evening.
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 02:36 AM   #108
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Originally Posted by Bali_Girl View Post
Hi Ldies! Happy 4th of July for those of you in the US!
Anyway - just wanted to post that DH and I played 36 holes of golf today -
It was hot and muggy out - had to wear sunscreen. Sometime early in the day, the sunscreen leaked in my golf bag....anyway, it ate through the stitching in the pocket it had been in. I'd like to know what's in sunscreen....its nasty stuff!!
Needless to say, I just ordered a new golf bag online this evening.


I just looked at my bottle and there is nothing to say what it is made of at all.
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 02:39 AM   #109
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Yes.....thanks Jenova. My post wasn't aimed at your heat related problem which I believe is a valid and important one.

I'm referring to my AP directly and corner wear.....and wear in general of leather bags. That's all.

I think it's excellent you posted a warning about the heat/sunscreen.........a great warning for all of us.
Thanks Contessa. Having just read about what Bali's sunscreen did to her golf bag, I am not sure that I want to put it on my body or my bags. Luckily the UK climate does not really offer us that much .
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 03:01 AM   #110
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Jenova......I just checked the ingredients listed on the sunscreen I use (Clarins).

Anyways....amongst some techno stuff, the word "Acid" came up......which might explain a "tad" of why Bali had the threads of her golf bag munched on.

Let's just say creams can be deadly. If I showed you my left eye, you'd think I was in the middle of filming the next Jason or Freddie Kruger Horror movie.......and it's all b/c I dared use a sample I received from "La Mer" to test their spectacular eye cream.

Needless to say, it's not going anywhere near my bags!
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 03:15 AM   #111
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Originally Posted by Contessa View Post
Jenova......I just checked the ingredients listed on the sunscreen I use (Clarins).

Anyways....amongst some techno stuff, the word "Acid" came up......which might explain a "tad" of why Bali had the threads of her golf bag munched on.

Let's just say creams can be deadly. If I showed you my left eye, you'd think I was in the middle of filming the next Jason or Freddie Kruger Horror movie.......and it's all b/c I dared use a sample I received from "La Mer" to test their spectacular eye cream.

Needless to say, it's not going anywhere near my bags!
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Acid - well no wonder it has been eating my Pewter Crash !!!! I am just so glad that I have a spare Pewter strap.

So sorry to hear about your eye - hope it is better soon.
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 03:18 AM   #112
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See below. Maybe if you combine the acid in sweat and the acid in suntan lotion, you get a stronger effect?

Sweat is a salty, watery solution produced by sweat glands, numerous microscopic channels opening onto the skin surface. As sebum and sweat mix up on the skin surface, they form a protective layer often referred to as the acid mantle . Acid mantle has a particular level of acidity characterized by pH from about 4 to 5.5. A pH of 7 is considered neutral, above 7 is alkaline, and below is acidic. The pH of acid in the human stomach, for example, is usually from 1 to 2, which is highly acidic. The skin, on the other hand, is mildly acidic. In addition to helping protect skin from "the elements" (such as wind or pollutants), acid mantle also inhibits the growth of harmful bacteria and fungi. If acid mantle is disrupted or loses its acidity, the skin becomes more prone to damage and infection. The loss of acid mantle is one of the side-effects of washing the skin with soaps or detergents of moderate or high strength.
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 03:25 AM   #113
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Thanks Jenova.

Great info btw!
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 09:57 PM   #114
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Originally Posted by Jenova View Post
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Acid - well no wonder it has been eating my Pewter Crash !!!! I am just so glad that I have a spare Pewter strap.

So sorry to hear about your eye - hope it is better soon.
Hey guys! I am an aesthetician and most acids found in over-the-counter skin products (usually glycolic and lactic) are so Ph neutral that they are not even effective so I doubt they will eat your bags They will however sting if you get them in your eyes!

Jenova explained the acid mantle perfectly by the way!
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 10:28 PM   #115
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I just want to add to zuzu's comment that things like lactic acid, glycolic acid, and salicylic acid are very common ingredients of moisturizers, cleansers and exfoliants and are really in general, more beneficial than harmful.
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 10:30 PM   #116
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And since we are discussing leather and corner wear, I just want to make a comment regarding the pebbled glossy leather.
I took my Wine pebbled glossy Charm Me out yesterday and noticed that the leather looks more glossy now and the color seems to be deeper. This is a change that I am very happy about. I really feel that the pebbled leathers get better with use and age, and they would be my pick for hardiest BEs.
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And since we are discussing leather and corner wear, I just want to make a comment regarding the pebbled glossy leather.
I took my Wine pebbled glossy Charm Me out yesterday and noticed that the leather looks more glossy now and the color seems to be deeper. This is a change that I am very happy about. I really feel that the pebbled leathers get better with use and age, and they would be my pick for hardiest BEs.
I totally agree about the cervo being the hardiest BE leather. You don't have to worry whatsoever about markings etc... And they look as pretty months later as the day it arrived. I like that too.

I"m sure the port would be stunning for the fall.

Glad to hear your enjoying your wine!
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 11:05 PM   #118
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Originally Posted by hipnycmom View Post
And since we are discussing leather and corner wear, I just want to make a comment regarding the pebbled glossy leather.
I took my Wine pebbled glossy Charm Me out yesterday and noticed that the leather looks more glossy now and the color seems to be deeper. This is a change that I am very happy about. I really feel that the pebbled leathers get better with use and age, and they would be my pick for hardiest BEs.
I carried my wine pebbled AP all last week and it looks great! This is the first bag I have treated with Apple products too. I am loving this pebbled leather
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Old Aug 2nd, 2009, 07:40 PM   #119
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One month of carrying everyday and my wine AP has absolutely no corner wear or scratches - this is an amazing leather!!
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Old Aug 2nd, 2009, 07:57 PM   #120
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One month of carrying everyday and my wine AP has absolutely no corner wear or scratches - this is an amazing leather!!
This is the wine pebbled and not the sheen yes?

I once wore my wine sheen AP extremely gently and yet still received negative results with wear on the corner's but my pebbled leathers all look as new as the day they arrived!

I highly suggest a cervo leather for BE durability. And crash is lovely too.

I even like matte because I happen to enjoy the markings (and there are markings on mattes) as they don't bother me. I think they actually add character! As long as they don't become too obvious and so far so good.
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