B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin???

lizlikeshugs · Dec 15th, 2006, 06:45 PM

I always thought it was Goat skin. But when I was at LMB today, the guy made a comment about how B-bags are very interesting and unique lamb skin and I corrected him and said it was goat. He shook his head and said some were lamb and some were goat. He said mine was goat skin but my friend's skin is lamb. I then pointed to some other bags and asked what they were because I had a hypothesis about what it could be and I think I might be right. My friend's bag is an 06 and he said it's lamb skin. Mine is an 05 and I pointed at the Sky Blue and Ice Blues since they are 05 bags as well and he said those are goat as well.

This is interesting since a lot of ladies complain about 06 leather feeling thin, more veiny, and not as soft, could it be because it is lamb and not goat skin?
Interesting.....

Irissy · Dec 15th, 2006, 06:51 PM

That's a great observation!

It could be...

chriseve · Dec 15th, 2006, 07:00 PM

i always thought that's their way of 'price adjustment', lower the cost, keep the price tags same, thus making just as much, if not higher, profit *shrug*

lelgin · Dec 15th, 2006, 07:09 PM

Interesting. I think my '06 said 'Chevre' on the tag which means goat, doesn't it?

chriseve · Dec 15th, 2006, 07:15 PM

goat's "capra" in italian, no?

WCLC · Dec 15th, 2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lelgin

Interesting. I think my '06 said 'Chevre' on the tag which means goat, doesn't it?

Chevre is from goat, at least in the dictionary I have.

Judy Bown · Dec 15th, 2006, 07:24 PM

Lamb or sheep skins are thinner and more veiny than goat. They are also liable to be fattier as animals, which leads to weaker fibres. As a result, they are often very soft but stretchy, and not as hard wearing, so are generally used on things that are not going to get a lot of wear (linings etc). Goat is much stronger, more tightly-fibred than sheep, whilst still being thin, light and soft to the touch.
Generally, the more hair on the animal, the thinner and weaker the hides underneath are. So a really woolly type of sheep (eg Merino) has lowest skin quality, whereas short hair sheep, eg from hot dry countries, have thicker skins, but only really suitable for gloves etc.
I would be suprised if it was lamb on a day bag (maybe on an evening clutch?). I don't know the style... so forgive me for rambling!!

chriseve · Dec 15th, 2006, 07:25 PM

um...just looked at my cards, they all said chevre, and i have a from each year of 04, 05, and 06

Damgaard · Dec 15th, 2006, 07:34 PM

My First from 06 is goat and so is my brand new Day!!!

Judy Bown · Dec 15th, 2006, 07:50 PM

It sounds like the sales guy got mixed up, but didn't want to look stupid when challenged? Sounds like it's goat all round.
The differences you're seeing could simply be a different quality/size/thickness of skin/origin of the goat skin (North Africa or Middle East, for example).

RealDealCollection · Dec 15th, 2006, 09:45 PM

The paper card with the year of production lists the type of leather used. Everything is in French, so Babel Fish is helpful.

Balenciaga's metallic bags are lamb "Agneau" and the regular motorcycle bags are goat skin "Chèvre". Throughout the years, Balenciaga has modified their leather processes, more distressing, less distressing, using chrome and oils...etc.

It's all good...I love the '01 leather on through the latest '06...back in S/S '06 I was worried that it all went to hell...but I got a few of them and over time the bags work into the amazing leather I expected. I think for F/W '06 they lightened up on the amount of buffing which created the super slick glazed effect...think of your nails...as so many girls were off-put immediately upon touching, seeing them hence the fabulous sales we've seen. Just my observation ;o)

pursemania · Dec 15th, 2006, 09:58 PM

Some people think a lamb is a type of goat?

I was told that goat skin is extremely durable yet soft and that is what is used in special military jackets that must be light in weight.

Pewter · Dec 15th, 2006, 10:30 PM

What bag does your friend have Liz? Is it a motorcycle bag? I thought all the motorcycle bags (except for the metallics) are goatskin, even the '06 ones? Some other styles, like the padded arena matelasses and whistle bags, (and metallics) are lambskin though...

lizlikeshugs · Dec 15th, 2006, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pursemania

Some people think a lamb is a type of goat?

That reminds me of this commercial back in September where there are these 2 Valley Girls and a SA in a shop. And one of the girls goes "What is this made of?" and the SA replied "Cashmere" and she goes "Oh, what is that made from?" and the other goes "A cow". They all nod in agreement. The the first girl goes "Is it the boy cow or the girl cow?" and the SA replies "The boy cow."

Then the commercial goes "If LA ever needed a County Faire, it's now"

For all you LA Valley Girls

cashmere comes from goats, and "boy cows" are called bulls.

lizlikeshugs · Dec 15th, 2006, 10:37 PM

My friend has an 06 Day in Emerald. I think....It looks Emerald...But then I think it's Sapin sometimes since hers is darker than my Emerald...

It's this bag here:
eBay: Balenciaga '06 Shoulder Hobo DAY Bag Emerald Green USED (item 180058948184 end time Dec-07-06 17:58:20 PST)

Dec 15th, 2006, 06:45 PM	#1
lizlikeshugs Member	B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? I always thought it was Goat skin. But when I was at LMB today, the guy made a comment about how B-bags are very interesting and unique lamb skin and I corrected him and said it was goat. He shook his head and said some were lamb and some were goat. He said mine was goat skin but my friend's skin is lamb. I then pointed to some other bags and asked what they were because I had a hypothesis about what it could be and I think I might be right. My friend's bag is an 06 and he said it's lamb skin. Mine is an 05 and I pointed at the Sky Blue and Ice Blues since they are 05 bags as well and he said those are goat as well. This is interesting since a lot of ladies complain about 06 leather feeling thin, more veiny, and not as soft, could it be because it is lamb and not goat skin? Interesting..... __________________ My Blog on Money Saving Tips (mostly for college students) http://unemployedcollegestudent.blogspot.com/

Dec 15th, 2006, 06:51 PM	#2
Irissy Meow?! Location: California	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? That's a great observation! It could be... __________________ Wish List: black suhali lockit MM damier azur speedy 25 B-bag RED twiggy

Dec 15th, 2006, 07:00 PM	#3
chriseve Member	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? i always thought that's their way of 'price adjustment', lower the cost, keep the price tags same, thus making just as much, if not higher, profit shrug

Dec 15th, 2006, 07:09 PM	#4
lelgin Member	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? Interesting. I think my '06 said 'Chevre' on the tag which means goat, doesn't it?

Dec 15th, 2006, 07:15 PM	#5
chriseve Member	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? goat's "capra" in italian, no?

Dec 15th, 2006, 07:24 PM	#7
Judy Bown Member Location: Bath, England	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? Lamb or sheep skins are thinner and more veiny than goat. They are also liable to be fattier as animals, which leads to weaker fibres. As a result, they are often very soft but stretchy, and not as hard wearing, so are generally used on things that are not going to get a lot of wear (linings etc). Goat is much stronger, more tightly-fibred than sheep, whilst still being thin, light and soft to the touch. Generally, the more hair on the animal, the thinner and weaker the hides underneath are. So a really woolly type of sheep (eg Merino) has lowest skin quality, whereas short hair sheep, eg from hot dry countries, have thicker skins, but only really suitable for gloves etc. I would be suprised if it was lamb on a day bag (maybe on an evening clutch?). I don't know the style... so forgive me for rambling!!

Dec 15th, 2006, 07:25 PM	#8
chriseve Member	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? um...just looked at my cards, they all said chevre, and i have a from each year of 04, 05, and 06

Dec 15th, 2006, 07:34 PM	#9
Damgaard Member Location: London	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? My First from 06 is goat and so is my brand new Day!!! __________________ Is that weird, taking my Louis Vuitton bag camping? Jessica Simpson

Dec 15th, 2006, 07:50 PM	#10
Judy Bown Member Location: Bath, England	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? It sounds like the sales guy got mixed up, but didn't want to look stupid when challenged? Sounds like it's goat all round. The differences you're seeing could simply be a different quality/size/thickness of skin/origin of the goat skin (North Africa or Middle East, for example).

Dec 15th, 2006, 09:45 PM	#11
RealDealCollection BALENCIAGA Recycler Location: Santa Fe	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? The paper card with the year of production lists the type of leather used. Everything is in French, so Babel Fish is helpful. Balenciaga's metallic bags are lamb "Agneau" and the regular motorcycle bags are goat skin "Chèvre". Throughout the years, Balenciaga has modified their leather processes, more distressing, less distressing, using chrome and oils...etc. It's all good...I love the '01 leather on through the latest '06...back in S/S '06 I was worried that it all went to hell...but I got a few of them and over time the bags work into the amazing leather I expected. I think for F/W '06 they lightened up on the amount of buffing which created the super slick glazed effect...think of your nails...as so many girls were off-put immediately upon touching, seeing them hence the fabulous sales we've seen. Just my observation ;o)

Dec 15th, 2006, 09:58 PM	#12
pursemania Member Location: California	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? Some people think a lamb is a type of goat? I was told that goat skin is extremely durable yet soft and that is what is used in special military jackets that must be light in weight. __________________ "A good bag becomes an intimate extension of the body." - Alessandra Vesi

Dec 15th, 2006, 10:30 PM	#13
Pewter Member	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? What bag does your friend have Liz? Is it a motorcycle bag? I thought all the motorcycle bags (except for the metallics) are goatskin, even the '06 ones? Some other styles, like the padded arena matelasses and whistle bags, (and metallics) are lambskin though...

Dec 15th, 2006, 10:37 PM	#15
lizlikeshugs Member	Re: B-bags, Goat skin or lamb skin??? My friend has an 06 Day in Emerald. I think....It looks Emerald...But then I think it's Sapin sometimes since hers is darker than my Emerald... It's this bag here: eBay: Balenciaga '06 Shoulder Hobo DAY Bag Emerald Green USED (item 180058948184 end time Dec-07-06 17:58:20 PST) __________________ My Blog on Money Saving Tips (mostly for college students) http://unemployedcollegestudent.blogspot.com/