Dirty, Filmy, Grey, Gross. HELP!

sunnibunni · Mar 18th, 2008, 01:04 AM

so my beautiful magenta work is about a month old now. i've been very careful with her. i've sprayed her with apple guard twice now and moisturized her beforehand with apple care conditioner. i've noticed however that the upper corner panels on the back have this gross diry filmy look to it that feels waxy to the touch and i don't know if it's from dirt or from the apple care. i read in one of these threads that it should go away with buffing but i've buffed quite a bit with this...leather shining cloth thing and it hasn't helped any. i don't know what to do! has anyone experienced this? should i get a different product that can clean this off? because no amount of apple care has helped but it's not really meant to clean. the pics below aren't the best but i hope it helps to show what i'm talking about.

back of the mirror treated with apple care:

front of mirror untreated (notice the brighter color):

left side is untreated, right side is treated (notice the slightly dirty look towards the top):

treated panel compared to untreated side of bag:

tried to capture the filmy murkiness and also show how dry it still is even with many many applications of apple care and lubriderm:

what am i doing wrong??!!

hellosunshine · Mar 18th, 2008, 03:13 AM

this is the main reason why i do not treat my bags. I just feel like all the elements that my bags go through will only make the leather better and better.

i don't have any advice since i've never gone through this but i'm sure somebody will give great advice. Goodluck! =)

eliza · Mar 18th, 2008, 03:17 AM

maybe you've over-treated... that seems like an awful lot of product for only 1 month. Remember, the leather is already treated, it isn't sold in a 'raw' state so to speak. A new bag shouldn't need to be treated. A lot of people recommend not treating a bag at all because some have found it affects the integrity of the leather (while others have had no problems, of course). I'm not sure if cleaning it will help, but definitely give the leather a rest. Maybe with use, the film will wear off and your bag will be fresh again. I suspect you've used WAAAAAY too much product on it, and it needs to wear off a bit.

Good luck, your bag is (otherwise) LOVELY!

pinkboudoir · Mar 18th, 2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hellosunshine

this is the main reason why i do not treat my bags. I just feel like all the elements that my bags go through will only make the leather better and better.

I feel the same way too & have avoided moisturisers of any kind near my bags. I do guard them with leather protector spray.

sunnibunni, Have you tried leather cleaner? Use sparingly over the entire affected area dabbing gently? As for the dry parts, I think most of Magenta 08 is known to be rather dryish. I also read that many experience the dry leather even with intense conditioning. I am not sure what would help but I hope someone does. Good Luck!

chpwhy · Mar 18th, 2008, 04:47 AM

I have a Magenta PT. Its a bit dry too, especially at the corners. Lets see.. I mositurised it.. 3-4 times??.. with Apple conditioner. Its slighty better now. Im guessing its the dye they use, magenta seems to be a bit more problematic. Dry, crackly, thin leather, colour varies from dark to light. But urs look alright to me. DONT worry too much about it. Enjoy the bag!

danae · Mar 18th, 2008, 06:00 AM

Here is my take on things:

Your bag is overglazed, not dry.The crackly look is there because of the glaze. It should not be treated until the glaze has come off a bit, because the leather can't absorb all the moisture through the glaze coating. Therefore the product sits on top of the glaze and creates that film that you don't like.

I'd suggest you gently wipe your bag with a half dry baby wipe, wear your bag to break it in for a couple of months and only then will your bag need moisturising.
I never moisturise a brand new bag for that exact reason. Trust me, I've tried that on all my post 05 bags and it always works out nicely.

hmwe46 · May 9th, 2008, 11:30 AM

There is no glaze on a bbag.

That would be the finishing tanning process results.

However, it looks to me like this is a result of over-use of products.

quilter · May 9th, 2008, 11:53 AM

So sorry you are distresssed about this..when I had a film on an '06 Camel City on just those corner panels I sat her down on my knee at night while I watched the news (and a few JUNK shows too!) and I kneaded and bent and otherwise tormented those corners for 10 or 15 mins at a time..at the end of the week they looked better than the rest of the bag and so (stop reading all sensitive owners) I changed tactics and sat and wrung the City bag just like you would wring out a wet towel..I did this 5 or 6 times in each direction..the City is now soft as an '05 and the filmy look is broken down and as far as I can tell is gone for good

lovelygarments · May 9th, 2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by eliza

maybe you've over-treated... that seems like an awful lot of product for only 1 month. Remember, the leather is already treated, it isn't sold in a 'raw' state so to speak. A new bag shouldn't need to be treated. A lot of people recommend not treating a bag at all because some have found it affects the integrity of the leather (while others have had no problems, of course). I'm not sure if cleaning it will help, but definitely give the leather a rest. Maybe with use, the film will wear off and your bag will be fresh again. I suspect you've used WAAAAAY too much product on it, and it needs to wear off a bit.

Good luck, your bag is (otherwise) LOVELY!

I think Eliza is absolutely correct. Leave your bag alone for a while. Hopefully the Apple product will wear off.

lovelygarments · May 9th, 2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quilter

So sorry you are distresssed about this..when I had a film on an '06 Camel City on just those corner panels I sat her down on my knee at night while I watched the news (and a few JUNK shows too!) and I kneaded and bent and otherwise tormented those corners for 10 or 15 mins at a time..at the end of the week they looked better than the rest of the bag and so (stop reading all sensitive owners) I changed tactics and sat and wrung the City bag just like you would wring out a wet towel..I did this 5 or 6 times in each direction..the City is now soft as an '05 and the filmy look is broken down and as far as I can tell is gone for good

Oh My Gosh, Quilter, you are so brave, but what great results!

ivylouwho · May 9th, 2008, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellosunshine

this is the main reason why i do not treat my bags. I just feel like all the elements that my bags go through will only make the leather better and better.

i don't have any advice since i've never gone through this but i'm sure somebody will give great advice. Goodluck! =)

^ me too.

I'm sorry to hear about your situation

I'm sure someone will have a solution for you. Good luck!

There's always lovinmybags.com You could send your baby to the spa!

amiekbs8 · May 9th, 2008, 06:21 PM

Have you buffed it with a clean cotton cloth? When I treated my bag with the apple, it looked filmy, until I reread the directions and saw I had to buff the bag and the beautiful black came back from the grey filmy-ness. I think other tPFers have had the same problem. Keep buffing it in circular motions and it should fix the problem.

Mar 18th, 2008, 01:04 AM	#1
sunnibunni s.n.o.r.e. Location: NYC	Dirty, Filmy, Grey, Gross. HELP! so my beautiful magenta work is about a month old now. i've been very careful with her. i've sprayed her with apple guard twice now and moisturized her beforehand with apple care conditioner. i've noticed however that the upper corner panels on the back have this gross diry filmy look to it that feels waxy to the touch and i don't know if it's from dirt or from the apple care. i read in one of these threads that it should go away with buffing but i've buffed quite a bit with this...leather shining cloth thing and it hasn't helped any. i don't know what to do! has anyone experienced this? should i get a different product that can clean this off? because no amount of apple care has helped but it's not really meant to clean. the pics below aren't the best but i hope it helps to show what i'm talking about. back of the mirror treated with apple care: front of mirror untreated (notice the brighter color): left side is untreated, right side is treated (notice the slightly dirty look towards the top): treated panel compared to untreated side of bag: tried to capture the filmy murkiness and also show how dry it still is even with many many applications of apple care and lubriderm: what am i doing wrong??!! __________________ my babies: Marc Jacobs Blue quilted stam (2.07) Balenciaga '08 Magenta Work (2.25.08)

Mar 18th, 2008, 03:13 AM	#2
hellosunshine Hi, I'm Sara!	Re: Dirty, Filmy, Grey, Gross. HELP! this is the main reason why i do not treat my bags. I just feel like all the elements that my bags go through will only make the leather better and better. i don't have any advice since i've never gone through this but i'm sure somebody will give great advice. Goodluck! =) __________________ MY LOVELY COLLECTION: Louis Vuitton Vernis Agenda '08 Balenciaga White Work with Giant Gold Hardware Multicolor White Louis Vuitton Wapity Louis Vuitton Azur Speedy 30 Louis Vuitton Mini Pochette Louis Vuitton Damier Speedy Soon To Add: Rebecca Minkoff Yellow Nikki Coin Purses Balenciaga!

Mar 18th, 2008, 03:17 AM	#3
eliza Member Location: Toronto	Re: Dirty, Filmy, Grey, Gross. HELP! maybe you've over-treated... that seems like an awful lot of product for only 1 month. Remember, the leather is already treated, it isn't sold in a 'raw' state so to speak. A new bag shouldn't need to be treated. A lot of people recommend not treating a bag at all because some have found it affects the integrity of the leather (while others have had no problems, of course). I'm not sure if cleaning it will help, but definitely give the leather a rest. Maybe with use, the film will wear off and your bag will be fresh again. I suspect you've used WAAAAAY too much product on it, and it needs to wear off a bit. Good luck, your bag is (otherwise) LOVELY!

Mar 18th, 2008, 04:47 AM	#5
chpwhy BANNEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Location: The Fine CIty	Re: Dirty, Filmy, Grey, Gross. HELP! I have a Magenta PT. Its a bit dry too, especially at the corners. Lets see.. I mositurised it.. 3-4 times??.. with Apple conditioner. Its slighty better now. Im guessing its the dye they use, magenta seems to be a bit more problematic. Dry, crackly, thin leather, colour varies from dark to light. But urs look alright to me. DONT worry too much about it. Enjoy the bag!

Mar 18th, 2008, 06:00 AM	#6
danae frou frou Location: Europe	Re: Dirty, Filmy, Grey, Gross. HELP! Here is my take on things: Your bag is overglazed, not dry.The crackly look is there because of the glaze. It should not be treated until the glaze has come off a bit, because the leather can't absorb all the moisture through the glaze coating. Therefore the product sits on top of the glaze and creates that film that you don't like. I'd suggest you gently wipe your bag with a half dry baby wipe, wear your bag to break it in for a couple of months and only then will your bag need moisturising. I never moisturise a brand new bag for that exact reason. Trust me, I've tried that on all my post 05 bags and it always works out nicely. __________________ ---- ---- my winter 08/09 wishist... Turquoise 2005 City Chanel grey reissue 227

May 9th, 2008, 11:30 AM	#7
hmwe46 Member	Re: Dirty, Filmy, Grey, Gross. HELP! There is no glaze on a bbag. That would be the finishing tanning process results. However, it looks to me like this is a result of over-use of products.

May 9th, 2008, 11:53 AM	#8
quilter Member	Re: Dirty, Filmy, Grey, Gross. HELP! So sorry you are distresssed about this..when I had a film on an '06 Camel City on just those corner panels I sat her down on my knee at night while I watched the news (and a few JUNK shows too!) and I kneaded and bent and otherwise tormented those corners for 10 or 15 mins at a time..at the end of the week they looked better than the rest of the bag and so (stop reading all sensitive owners) I changed tactics and sat and wrung the City bag just like you would wring out a wet towel..I did this 5 or 6 times in each direction..the City is now soft as an '05 and the filmy look is broken down and as far as I can tell is gone for good __________________ Last edited by quilter; May 9th, 2008 at 11:53 AM. Reason: typo

May 9th, 2008, 06:21 PM	#12
amiekbs8 Member Location: NYC!	Re: Dirty, Filmy, Grey, Gross. HELP! Have you buffed it with a clean cotton cloth? When I treated my bag with the apple, it looked filmy, until I reread the directions and saw I had to buff the bag and the beautiful black came back from the grey filmy-ness. I think other tPFers have had the same problem. Keep buffing it in circular motions and it should fix the problem.