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schwarz · Jan 19th, 2009, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by ken-doll

Red flags.... you're right it is not barenia and peculiar that somebody working for Hermes that long could not differentiate between the two leathers

Should I even bother to ask for close-ups? and if I should what are the elements I need to request?

mrssparkles · Jan 19th, 2009, 11:26 AM

Thank you, Perigord!

So fast!

Perigord · Jan 19th, 2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by mrssparkles

Thank you, Perigord!

So fast!

My pleasure...thank you MrsS!!!

mrssparkles · Jan 19th, 2009, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by schwarz

Should I even bother to ask for close-ups? and if I should what are the elements I need to request?

If I am not mistaken, Hermes is going to re-launch the Herbag. Would you want to get one brand new?

I noted the seller's reply to you ... I regard the choice of words to be poor, and it's a brush-off, IMHO.

A keen seller in my eyes, would not deny any request for more pictures. I won't comment on authenticity because I've never owned a Herbag before.

Gina123 · Jan 19th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Hello ladies,

item: BJ 25cm birkin
Item no: 220347546532
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220347546532
Seller: Jonesy7617
Comment:
Is this authentic or not enough picture to determine???

Many thanks!!!!

margieb · Jan 19th, 2009, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Gina123

Hello ladies,

item: BJ 25cm birkin
Item no: 220347546532
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=220347546532
Seller: Jonesy7617
Comment:
Is this authentic or not enough picture to determine???

Many thanks!!!!

I'm not an athenticator - but I was pass-y on th Jones-y. Doesnt smell good

Pepper · Jan 19th, 2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Gina123

Hello ladies,

item: BJ 25cm birkin
Item no: 220347546532
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=220347546532
Seller: Jonesy7617
Comment:
Is this authentic or not enough picture to determine???

Many thanks!!!!

The photos are inadequate for me, but regardless, I would not take a chance on an unknown seller with a single feedback.

Perigord · Jan 19th, 2009, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Pepper

The photos are inadequate for me, but regardless, I would not take a chance on an unknown seller with a single feedback.

Although I always understand that sellers have to start somewhere and that everyone at some point will have a feedback of 1, I completely agree with Pepper. An image might be perfect--but without a more substantial selling history you would be taking a risk.

Are the pictures actually of a bag in the sellers possession? Sometimes sellers show images acquired elsewhere, and the bag you get does not even resemble anything authentic. Because of this even a good picture, when it is paired with what I consider insubstantial feedback, does not give me confidence. You need to see a history of customer satisfaction and customer care. Does the seller have a solid and substantial history, and can you see that they have made things better and resolved problems faithfully if things go wrong?

In this case too the price for a Birkin ($4,000) falls a little into the could-be-too-good-to-be-true zone.

I am not saying the bag is bad--I will leave that to others. Going with an unknown seller is beyond my risk threshold.

ken-doll · Jan 19th, 2009, 12:29 PM

mrssparkles, Perigord, Pepper

Thank you for making ebay a safer place for birkin finders

dressage queen · Jan 19th, 2009, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by schwarz

Item: Hermes Herbag PM Natural
Listing number: 160310280108 (ebay)
Seller: 427bird
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Hermes-Herbag-PM-Natural_W0QQitemZ160310280108QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _CSA_WH_Handbags?hash=item160310280108&_trksid=p32 86.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7 C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A5 0
Comments: I thought the leather was supposed to be vache naturelle not berenia. I asked for extra photos and the seller mentioned she has worked at H for 10 years. IMO the extra photos are not enough to authenticate, but I would appreciate any advice!

i can't comment on the authenticity of this particular bag as the photos are insufficient AND i'm not familiar enough with the model - but fwiw the herbags i've seen at hermes sales were in fact barenia and not VN.

greymom · Jan 19th, 2009, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Gina123

Hello ladies,

item: BJ 25cm birkin
Item no: 220347546532
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=220347546532
Seller: Jonesy7617
Comment:
Is this authentic or not enough picture to determine???

Many thanks!!!!

Three of the four photos in this listing belong to ebay seller 88caviar. I have emailed 88caviar to let her know her photos are being used by another seller. Here is 88caviar's listing to compare.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HERMES-BIRKIN-BAG-BLUE-JEAN-LEATHER-PALLADIUM-NEW-35CM_W0QQitemZ120364865858QQihZ002QQcategoryZ63852 QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262

Perigord · Jan 19th, 2009, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by greymom

Three of the four photos in this listing belong to ebay seller 88caviar. I have emailed 88caviar to let her know her photos are being used by another seller. Here is 88caviar's listing to compare.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HERMES-BIRKIN-BAG-BLUE-JEAN-LEATHER-PALLADIUM-NEW-35CM_W0QQitemZ120364865858QQihZ002QQcategoryZ63852 QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262

Very good eye. This is just the kind of new-seller-1-feedback problem I was trying to describe in my earlier post. I have made a report to eBay.

How on earth did they remove the watermark. No, I don't want to know! (And maybe we should not give instructions on how to do that here...)

chuck75 · Jan 19th, 2009, 01:43 PM

Well spot PERIGOLD!!! Star!

Perigord · Jan 19th, 2009, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by chuck75

Well spot PERIGOLD!!! Star!

It's greymom who gets all the applause here. What a sleuth!

Encore Hermes · Jan 19th, 2009, 01:47 PM

And now the watermarks..............Oh boy, looks like a new can of worms.

Thanks Greymom and Perigord!!!!

Jan 19th, 2009, 11:26 AM	#62
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Jan 19th, 2009, 12:29 PM	#69
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Jan 19th, 2009, 01:43 PM	#73
chuck75 Sofa King Banned Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 260	Well spot PERIGOLD!!! Star!
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Jan 19th, 2009, 01:47 PM	#75
Encore Hermes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joined: Aug 2007 Location: La Quinta Posts: 8,758	And now the watermarks..............Oh boy, looks like a new can of worms. Thanks Greymom and Perigord!!!!
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Jan 19th, 2009, 11:36 AM	#65
Gina123 Member Joined: Dec 2008 Location: No place like home Posts: 912	Hello ladies, item: BJ 25cm birkin Item no: 220347546532 Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220347546532 Seller: Jonesy7617 Comment: Is this authentic or not enough picture to determine??? Many thanks!!!!

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