Authenticate This Hermes Scarf / RTW *Please read rules and use format in Post #1

[Twilight78]

Item: Les Cles cashmere shawl
listing #: 110341016448
seller: fabuloustuff
link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=110341016448
comments: Is this authentic? Great starting price. Thank you in advance.

[Brennamom]

This is an odd twilly...Did I miss a pattern?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123

[contrefaçons]

B, IMHO it is legende Kuna , peuple de PANAMA.

Am I wrong ??

[Brennamom]

Originally Posted by contrefaçons

B, IMHO it is legende Kuna , peuple de PANAMA. Am I wrong ??

Thanks C! I hope not, I kinda dig it!

[contrefaçons]

B, I am sure because I have it in PM cash/silk and you should see the four beautiful designs at each corner representing two ethnical birds and two felines as in the indian Kuna craft. See in Wikipedia for origins and in the House of Scarves database for the whole pattern. Enjoy !

[Brennamom]

Originally Posted by contrefaçons

B, I am sure because I have it in PM cash/silk and you should see the four beautiful designs at each corner representing two ethnical birds and two felines as in the indian Kuna craft. See in Wikipedia for origins and in the House of Scarves database for the whole pattern. Enjoy !

Cool! Thanks C. Have I told you lately that I you!! Wiki rocks, as do you!

[contrefaçons]

B, your pleasure is my pleasure, sharing beauty is so awarding...! I you too !

[Brennamom]

Originally Posted by contrefaçons

B, your pleasure is my pleasure, sharing beauty is so awarding...! I you too !

C - evil bay cancelled the auction and killed ALL the items seller had listed! I found seller's name to contact. Were they right?? Should I try for it?

[contrefaçons]

B, I dont know why feebay pulled of the listings. I'm afraid they had a good reason, could be : fakes and thus banned either by a person reporting it, either by H themselves (rather rare but possible for h ITEMS UPON PROOF of fake item) this ban is for selling any following H item, or an internal problem : closing their account, even for not paying their dues, or you name it... Could also be a mistake but you could always ask the seller her version, BUT this does not prove the item is authentic, beware, twillys have certainly been faked. I am NOT an authenticator, just a collector and pattern lover, I know this pattern BUT I cannot vouch for its authenticity. Seton would know all about it but how to reach her ???

I would not jump on it, for your sake of mind, you could always contact the seller and ask about her version of the pull off, but bear in mind there could be a serious problem somewhere. Do not pull the trigger until you have someone from tpf authenticate this particular twilly, and dont forget the pm edition is so more gratifying.

Good luck but keep cool and hope someone can chime in Perigord ? Seton ? any scarf specialist would be welcome here...

[Mindi B]

A general question for the scarfies out there: I recently purchased a scarf from a reputable eBay seller and although the scarf itself raises no alarms, the caretag is sewn on slightly askew--just not quite aligned with the hem. Has anyone else ever noticed this on an authentic scarf, or shall I panic? Thank you for any input!

By the way, here's the auction link--the pics do include a close-up of the tag, so you can see whereof I speak. . . . http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=350151573878

[Brennamom]

Thanks CF! You are right, and since I saved a picture of it, I started going back through threads for pix, which there are a few and I think Eb might have had something. The background color of the pulled twilly didn't match any of the pics our members have....So, while I was initially bummed, a 24-hour cool-off and some deeper research has helped me make peace with it. Now I know what to look for....

[tangle]

Originally Posted by Brennamom

Thanks CF! You are right, and since I saved a picture of it, I started going back through threads for pix, which there are a few and I think Eb might have had something. The background color of the pulled twilly didn't match any of the pics our members have....So, while I was initially bummed, a 24-hour cool-off and some deeper research has helped me make peace with it. Now I know what to look for....

Brennamom--I do not know if that specific twilly was authentic. I just wanted to warn you, if you are interested in this twilly design in the future, to ask if it is a "sale" item. I don't think the ebay listing you had posted before specified it was not a sale item, and I know these twillies were offered at the sales (mine is from a sale, and has a black "s" stamp in the middle of the back side, by the care tag). Just something else to watch out for!

[tangle]

Originally Posted by Mindi B

A general question for the scarfies out there: I recently purchased a scarf from a reputable eBay seller and although the scarf itself raises no alarms, the caretag is sewn on slightly askew--just not quite aligned with the hem. Has anyone else ever noticed this on an authentic scarf, or shall I panic? Thank you for any input! By the way, here's the auction link--the pics do include a close-up of the tag, so you can see whereof I speak. . . . http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&it em=350151573878

Mindi, I wouldn't panic. This particular design is older (original release was 1990, though I don't know about this colorway, it could be a newer reissue), and so it might be possible that the tag became loose and was reattached at some point? I am just thinking aloud here.

Hopefully someone else can weigh in.

[Brennamom]

Originally Posted by tangle

Brennamom--I do not know if that specific twilly was authentic. I just wanted to warn you, if you are interested in this twilly design in the future, to ask if it is a "sale" item. I don't think the ebay listing you had posted before specified it was not a sale item, and I know these twillies were offered at the sales (mine is from a sale, and has a black "s" stamp in the middle of the back side, by the care tag). Just something else to watch out for!

Thank you Tangle! I LOVE your collection! You have one of my grails, the Pyth in Mousse. I'm watching one right now, I'll post the auction for comment. The Kuna did not mention it as a sale item, so that's a no-no...I'm sure everything is for the best as far as the auction goes, I've just seen some of our great members killed by ebay enough times to know that it might not always be for selling fakes....

[elle tee]

Originally Posted by tangle

Mindi, I wouldn't panic. This particular design is older (original release was 1990, though I don't know about this colorway, it could be a newer reissue), and so it might be possible that the tag became loose and was reattached at some point? I am just thinking aloud here. Hopefully someone else can weigh in.

That was my thought also, Tangle. Those stitches really do come out easily, I was fiddling with the tag on one of my GMs the other day and a stitch came loose just like that, no damage to the shawl. It would not surprise me at all if a stitch popped loose and it was clumsily reattached, or even if the original stitch was pulled tight somehow, and that pulled the tag edge up.