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chessmont · Dec 3rd, 2008, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by lilpursekitty

I hope everything works out with the elephant, Bagnshoo! And I was interested in reading the article, chessmont. I follow the blog of a vet who is a friend of a friend; she's one of the most passionate and vocal advocates for animals that I've ever encountered, and she puts her time/money where her mouth is. She frequently takes in rescues, provides free vet services for abandoned animals, does her best to educate callous owners - she's an intelligent and admirable woman. And she hates, HATES, PETA. One PETA action she blogs about this time of year is a scam asking people to donate money in order to provide doghouses for dogs without them. PETA takes the money, buys doghouses, then supposedly distributes them to dogs in need. What does PETA list as the cost to provide one doghouse? $265. The vet is quick to note that a quality Dogloo AND a 50 pound bag of generic food for a needy dog will run the average consumer about $50. So what is PETA doing with the extra cash? Who knows! She advocates bypassing PETA and giving that food and dogloo to a needy family in your area or donating food directly to a humane society.

--Thanks for taking the time to read it. Maybe you can PM me her blog? I'd love to see it. Yeah, I have heard about the Igloo scam.

If your friend's friend doesn't realize it yet, H$U$ is just PETA in a business suit. PETA is in concert with H$U$ because their crazy antics and lunatic demonstrations make H$U$ look moderate and reasonable. But they both have the same goals.

I don't think this is OT, because the brouhaha of Billy was over AR vs. the real animal experts

bagnshoofetish · Dec 3rd, 2008, 08:16 PM

^^^no no Chessmont please continue to give all the info you have. I have discussed PETA and their terrorism in the past in this forum. I simply don't have the energy to anymore. I'm glad you do have the energy so please keep the info coming. Ingrids quotes alone are more than I can stomach.

dallas · Dec 3rd, 2008, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by bagnshoofetish

Some woman started in on how he doesn't have enough space that he needs, get this, 2300 square miles of space!

And is 2300 square miles the amount of space that the animal rights folk can give him?

bagnshoofetish · Dec 3rd, 2008, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by dallas

And is 2300 square miles the amount of space that the animal rights folk can give him?

oy. if you could have heard some of the things they have said.....sometimes my jaw just drops and I am speechless...

caitlin1214 · Dec 4th, 2008, 12:37 AM

I'm sorry I got here late.

That's good news for both you and Billy. I'm so happy for the both of you.

Um, as much as I love Bob Barker, he needs to stick to what he knows best and tell people to get their pets spayed and neutered. But he should leave the care and keeping of animals to the experts.

Question: What do the dollar signs mean in "H$U$"?

caitlin1214 · Dec 4th, 2008, 12:39 AM

Bob Barker (and everyone else who are, for some reason, against zoos) should sit down and watch a week's worth of footage of Billy and other elephants in the zoo. They'll see that they're happy, healthy and well cared for.

chessmont · Dec 4th, 2008, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by caitlin1214

Bob Barker (and everyone else who are, for some reason, against zoos) should sit down and watch a week's worth of footage of Billy and other elephants in the zoo. They'll see that they're happy, healthy and well cared for.

-Thank you Caitlin for the understanding of the bigger picture!

candace117 · Dec 4th, 2008, 09:47 AM

Jason got really agitated when I told him about this situation, bagnshoo. He gets frustrated because people don't understand a lot of the multiple facets of these issues and jump on the "omg we have to free the naminals from the evil zoo" idea because it is sexy. I'm going to write more when I get to work...haha I have the feeling this can turn into a rant and I don't have time to write it

bagnshoofetish · Dec 4th, 2008, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by caitlin1214

Question: What do the dollar signs mean in "H$U$"?

Thanks Honeypie.

And H$U$ stand for the Humane Society of the US. The dollar signs signify how big of a money making organization they are, how the President of the org makes 7 figures a year and how not one dime go to any animal shelters.

bagnshoofetish · Dec 4th, 2008, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by candace117

Jason got really agitated when I told him about this situation, bagnshoo. He gets frustrated because people don't understand a lot of the multiple facets of these issues and jump on the "omg we have to free the naminals from the evil zoo" idea because it is sexy. I'm going to write more when I get to work...haha I have the feeling this can turn into a rant and I don't have time to write it

thanks babe.

its so funny how the truth can be twisted by anyone but people will believe ANYTHING a celebrity says. I don't get it. When some of the animal rights people were invited to come down to see Billys yard and current barn and new exhibit underway, Lily Tomlin refused to go in and look. She just stood outside. Then she had the nerve to go on t.v. and accuse us of being "Guantanamo Bay". She's a nutbag. I guess she's bored cause she has nothing to do right now. A few months ago, she had some eucalyptus trees cut down from her property line and her next door neighbor complained and said she was killing the trees for vanity purposes and was suing her. Well she didn't like that. She said an arborist told her the trees were going to collapse if she didn't cut them down. So Lily, how does it feel to be accused of something by someone who does not have all the facts?
And to think - I was marching in the Writers Strike picket lines with her just months ago....

miSsxhuStLer · Dec 5th, 2008, 02:40 PM

Bagnshoo, good luck with everything and keep us posted. Billy is adorable! I'm confident he's being well taken care of.

Just out of curiosity, what do you do at the LA Zoo? I figured you worked with animals since I would always see them in your avatars, but I never knew you worked at the zoo. That's too cool!

lilian · Dec 5th, 2008, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by bagnshoofetish

And H$U$ stand for the Humane Society of the US. The dollar signs signify how big of a money making organization they are, how the President of the org makes 7 figures a year and how not one dime go to any animal shelters.

Are those the same people that are filing this lawsuit right now?

bagnshoofetish · Dec 5th, 2008, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by miSsxhuStLer

Bagnshoo, good luck with everything and keep us posted. Billy is adorable! I'm confident he's being well taken care of.

Just out of curiosity, what do you do at the LA Zoo? I figured you worked with animals since I would always see them in your avatars, but I never knew you worked at the zoo. That's too cool!

Thanks!
I'm an animal keeper at the zoo.

bagnshoofetish · Dec 5th, 2008, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by lilian

Are those the same people that are filing this lawsuit right now?

yup.

chessmont · Dec 6th, 2008, 03:19 PM

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Dec 3rd, 2008, 08:16 PM	#47
bagnshoofetish OP watching the sunset Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 20,191	^^^no no Chessmont please continue to give all the info you have. I have discussed PETA and their terrorism in the past in this forum. I simply don't have the energy to anymore. I'm glad you do have the energy so please keep the info coming. Ingrids quotes alone are more than I can stomach.
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Dec 4th, 2008, 12:37 AM	#50
caitlin1214 You just got slapped Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada (Eh?) Posts: 22,259	I'm sorry I got here late. That's good news for both you and Billy. I'm so happy for the both of you. Um, as much as I love Bob Barker, he needs to stick to what he knows best and tell people to get their pets spayed and neutered. But he should leave the care and keeping of animals to the experts. Question: What do the dollar signs mean in "H$U$"?
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Dec 4th, 2008, 12:39 AM	#51
caitlin1214 You just got slapped Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada (Eh?) Posts: 22,259	Bob Barker (and everyone else who are, for some reason, against zoos) should sit down and watch a week's worth of footage of Billy and other elephants in the zoo. They'll see that they're happy, healthy and well cared for.
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Dec 4th, 2008, 09:47 AM	#53
candace117 Embrace the Suck! Joined: Oct 2007 Location: The Dustoff Compound, IRAQ Posts: 9,280	Jason got really agitated when I told him about this situation, bagnshoo. He gets frustrated because people don't understand a lot of the multiple facets of these issues and jump on the "omg we have to free the naminals from the evil zoo" idea because it is sexy. I'm going to write more when I get to work...haha I have the feeling this can turn into a rant and I don't have time to write it
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Dec 5th, 2008, 02:40 PM	#56
miSsxhuStLer in LVoe... Joined: Dec 2006 Location: orange county, ca Posts: 920	Bagnshoo, good luck with everything and keep us posted. Billy is adorable! I'm confident he's being well taken care of. Just out of curiosity, what do you do at the LA Zoo? I figured you worked with animals since I would always see them in your avatars, but I never knew you worked at the zoo. That's too cool!
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Dec 6th, 2008, 03:19 PM	#60
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